ilikecharlene
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does it work, and do people in common society actually use it? or is the seduction community just an online thing?
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
does most PUA stuff actually work?
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
if it will give you the balls talk to a chick VS not talking to them. Then yes, it always will be better.. your chances will always be better than not approaching her. I think thats a good foundation for it.
It's all a numbers game. We all have a ratio above our heads. The good looking guys probably have a ratio of 1:4 women.
The normal guys probably have 1:20 women.
It will convert.. trust me.
It's all a numbers game. We all have a ratio above our heads. The good looking guys probably have a ratio of 1:4 women.
The normal guys probably have 1:20 women.
It will convert.. trust me.
Mike32ct
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If she's attracted to you (ie you meet or exceed her minimum looks criteria) most anything works. If she isn't attracted to you, at best PUA stuff will provide free entertainment for her. Then her and her friends will take off when your cool stories/routines run out. At worst, it will annoy her or creep her out.
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Case f**kin' closed!Mike32ct said:
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
ilikecharlene
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does it work for you?
Mike32ct
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I definitely tried it and found it only works if she's already attracted. But in those cases, you don't need it anyway.
Honestly, the only benefit of PUA stuff is what DJnoob said. It gets guys to approach.
You don't need any techniques or scripted lines to approach. But if you really need a "crutch" or "training wheels" then a canned (memorized) opener and maybe a short fun story is fine to start with. If you MUST do this, pick a true story from your life.
However, if you want to challenges yourself to REALLY learn game, learn to approach with an "empty head." Just walk up to the girl or girls with NO CLUE what you are going to say. Once you are in front of them, you can open with "hi" or mention something situational or just introduce yourself. Then just wing it. You can then develop the great skill of speaking off the cuff. That is real natural game. That's where it's at.
This will take practice. You mind will probably go blank a few times. It's ok to eject if you are totally drawing a blank. Just politely excuse yourself, "I gotta get going. It was cool meeting you two."
Honestly, the only benefit of PUA stuff is what DJnoob said. It gets guys to approach.
You don't need any techniques or scripted lines to approach. But if you really need a "crutch" or "training wheels" then a canned (memorized) opener and maybe a short fun story is fine to start with. If you MUST do this, pick a true story from your life.
However, if you want to challenges yourself to REALLY learn game, learn to approach with an "empty head." Just walk up to the girl or girls with NO CLUE what you are going to say. Once you are in front of them, you can open with "hi" or mention something situational or just introduce yourself. Then just wing it. You can then develop the great skill of speaking off the cuff. That is real natural game. That's where it's at.
This will take practice. You mind will probably go blank a few times. It's ok to eject if you are totally drawing a blank. Just politely excuse yourself, "I gotta get going. It was cool meeting you two."
Agreed, there has to be a level of attraction first. I think what pua tips do is help you spot the signs a girl is interested, help you build the confidence to approach, and what you need to do in order to close her. All of it is moot point if she isn't attracted.
I don't use any "techniques" but what I do like about those articles is a lot of it is about self respect and working on yourself. Qualities like being confident, being able to tell jokes in the right spot and being able to assert yourself are not only to be used for picking up women. Sure it is good, but those qualities will help you in every aspect of your life. Instead of looking at something like that from such a linear approach and stealing lines from the articles (which probably won't help), try to take the main idea of everything and implement it in your life. You'll probably notice a difference everywhere.
Just make things natural
Just make things natural
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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It's just like a placebo effect to get guys to talk to girls.
If she's attracted to you and you actually approach her, a neg hit or peacocking aren't going to mean sh1t. You can have a decent conversation with the ch1ck and you'll be able to get down her pants too.
Lot's of PUAs have different methods and most have pretty great success rates. Know why? It's not the technique, it's just that they have the balls to approach and talk to a woman. It's not rocket science.
PUA stuff DOES work if it helps you overcome approach anxiety and helps build your conversational skills.
If she's attracted to you and you actually approach her, a neg hit or peacocking aren't going to mean sh1t. You can have a decent conversation with the ch1ck and you'll be able to get down her pants too.
Lot's of PUAs have different methods and most have pretty great success rates. Know why? It's not the technique, it's just that they have the balls to approach and talk to a woman. It's not rocket science.
PUA stuff DOES work if it helps you overcome approach anxiety and helps build your conversational skills.