ilikecharlene
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does it work, and do people in common society actually use it? or is the seduction community just an online thing?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
does most PUA stuff actually work?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
if it will give you the balls talk to a chick VS not talking to them. Then yes, it always will be better.. your chances will always be better than not approaching her. I think thats a good foundation for it.
It's all a numbers game. We all have a ratio above our heads. The good looking guys probably have a ratio of 1:4 women.
The normal guys probably have 1:20 women.
It will convert.. trust me.
It's all a numbers game. We all have a ratio above our heads. The good looking guys probably have a ratio of 1:4 women.
The normal guys probably have 1:20 women.
It will convert.. trust me.
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If she's attracted to you (ie you meet or exceed her minimum looks criteria) most anything works. If she isn't attracted to you, at best PUA stuff will provide free entertainment for her. Then her and her friends will take off when your cool stories/routines run out. At worst, it will annoy her or creep her out.
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Case f**kin' closed!Mike32ct said:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
ilikecharlene
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does it work for you?
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I definitely tried it and found it only works if she's already attracted. But in those cases, you don't need it anyway.
Honestly, the only benefit of PUA stuff is what DJnoob said. It gets guys to approach.
You don't need any techniques or scripted lines to approach. But if you really need a "crutch" or "training wheels" then a canned (memorized) opener and maybe a short fun story is fine to start with. If you MUST do this, pick a true story from your life.
However, if you want to challenges yourself to REALLY learn game, learn to approach with an "empty head." Just walk up to the girl or girls with NO CLUE what you are going to say. Once you are in front of them, you can open with "hi" or mention something situational or just introduce yourself. Then just wing it. You can then develop the great skill of speaking off the cuff. That is real natural game. That's where it's at.
This will take practice. You mind will probably go blank a few times. It's ok to eject if you are totally drawing a blank. Just politely excuse yourself, "I gotta get going. It was cool meeting you two."
Honestly, the only benefit of PUA stuff is what DJnoob said. It gets guys to approach.
You don't need any techniques or scripted lines to approach. But if you really need a "crutch" or "training wheels" then a canned (memorized) opener and maybe a short fun story is fine to start with. If you MUST do this, pick a true story from your life.
However, if you want to challenges yourself to REALLY learn game, learn to approach with an "empty head." Just walk up to the girl or girls with NO CLUE what you are going to say. Once you are in front of them, you can open with "hi" or mention something situational or just introduce yourself. Then just wing it. You can then develop the great skill of speaking off the cuff. That is real natural game. That's where it's at.
This will take practice. You mind will probably go blank a few times. It's ok to eject if you are totally drawing a blank. Just politely excuse yourself, "I gotta get going. It was cool meeting you two."
Agreed, there has to be a level of attraction first. I think what pua tips do is help you spot the signs a girl is interested, help you build the confidence to approach, and what you need to do in order to close her. All of it is moot point if she isn't attracted.
I don't use any "techniques" but what I do like about those articles is a lot of it is about self respect and working on yourself. Qualities like being confident, being able to tell jokes in the right spot and being able to assert yourself are not only to be used for picking up women. Sure it is good, but those qualities will help you in every aspect of your life. Instead of looking at something like that from such a linear approach and stealing lines from the articles (which probably won't help), try to take the main idea of everything and implement it in your life. You'll probably notice a difference everywhere.
Just make things natural
Just make things natural
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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It's just like a placebo effect to get guys to talk to girls.
If she's attracted to you and you actually approach her, a neg hit or peacocking aren't going to mean sh1t. You can have a decent conversation with the ch1ck and you'll be able to get down her pants too.
Lot's of PUAs have different methods and most have pretty great success rates. Know why? It's not the technique, it's just that they have the balls to approach and talk to a woman. It's not rocket science.
PUA stuff DOES work if it helps you overcome approach anxiety and helps build your conversational skills.
If she's attracted to you and you actually approach her, a neg hit or peacocking aren't going to mean sh1t. You can have a decent conversation with the ch1ck and you'll be able to get down her pants too.
Lot's of PUAs have different methods and most have pretty great success rates. Know why? It's not the technique, it's just that they have the balls to approach and talk to a woman. It's not rocket science.
PUA stuff DOES work if it helps you overcome approach anxiety and helps build your conversational skills.