The_Reaper
Senior Don Juan
I mean, the attractive ones - hell even the unnatractive ones - can get sex so fukkin easily! Most of their male friends would jump straight into bed with them if they had the opportunity. That there is POWER.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Does it ever annoy you how much power girls have?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Microphone Fiend
Master Don Juan
power is in your head. People only have the power you give them. If you dont let them do what they want, then by definition they have no power over you. All that matters is your insight on the situation
PersonalJesus
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in the words of rage against the machine: son, we gotta take the power back.
but seriously, i think if you're just all around better than they are, the balls in your court
be a man of value.
but seriously, i think if you're just all around better than they are, the balls in your court
be a man of value.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Nahhh, just the guys who claim that they have all the power. 
Power is an illusion. If you don't believe it's there, they won't have it (unless you give it to them).
Power is an illusion. If you don't believe it's there, they won't have it (unless you give it to them).The_Reaper
Senior Don Juan
Hmm. Ok a master PUA comes over to you and a girl you've been targetting. You don't believe he has any power. He fukks your girl. You still don't believe he has any power - but he just shagged your girl, whether you believed in his abilities or not.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Microphone Fiend said:
You can pretend all you want that an attractive female doesnt have power over you but that just isnt the case because she knows she can ditch you at any moment and have 1K guys sucking her toes. You may be strong/confident enough to not let her have power over you but it doesnt matter, she knows she has it 99% of the time over others.
Delta
Master Don Juan
attractive girls have TREMENDOUS POWER.
unattractive girls have the LEAST POWER OF ALL. better by FAR to be an AFC MALE.
ugly girls definitely get the raw deal in life. they MIGHT be able to have sex whenever they want but probably not with anyone they'd show off to their friends and even those guys will treat them like crap afterwards and forget about them... treat them like beergoggle anomalies....
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but hot girls develop a COMPLEX.... that they are valued only for their looks. sure, they have thousands flocking to them every time they go out but that starts to f with their minds... that nobody really wants to get to know them, nobody cares about who she is as a person, they only want her because of how she looks. EVERYBODY has an ulterior motive.
this is indeed... fact. but if you're the object of it day in and day out, in EVERY conceivable social situation... i can imagine it gets tiring.
also, having too many options is not necessarily a good thing either.... makes you highly likely to be unsatisfied with EVERYTHING.... becoming so nitpicky that you'll end up miserable instead of happy with what you end up settling down to.
as for how easy it might be for hot chicks to have sex.... well, society DOES have a tendency to PUNISH highly sexual females.... even in this day and age.... so they might be able to satisfy their urges easily but it comes with a social and psychological price.
actually, this punishment probably comes from males who think it's so unfair for hot chicks to have so much power.... so we get our revenge too.....
oh, and let's not discount the caution necessary in not getting yourself entangled with a clinger in the benign form and an all out stalker in its malignant manifestation.... hot chicks stir up POWERFUL PASSIONS in men.... sometimes, that ends up being extremely dangerous.
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yes, attractive women have a LOT of power. but a hot guy trumps it. if only it were easy to be one....
delta
unattractive girls have the LEAST POWER OF ALL. better by FAR to be an AFC MALE.
ugly girls definitely get the raw deal in life. they MIGHT be able to have sex whenever they want but probably not with anyone they'd show off to their friends and even those guys will treat them like crap afterwards and forget about them... treat them like beergoggle anomalies....
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but hot girls develop a COMPLEX.... that they are valued only for their looks. sure, they have thousands flocking to them every time they go out but that starts to f with their minds... that nobody really wants to get to know them, nobody cares about who she is as a person, they only want her because of how she looks. EVERYBODY has an ulterior motive.
this is indeed... fact
. but if you're the object of it day in and day out, in EVERY conceivable social situation... i can imagine it gets tiring.also, having too many options is not necessarily a good thing either.... makes you highly likely to be unsatisfied with EVERYTHING.... becoming so nitpicky that you'll end up miserable instead of happy with what you end up settling down to.
as for how easy it might be for hot chicks to have sex.... well, society DOES have a tendency to PUNISH highly sexual females.... even in this day and age.... so they might be able to satisfy their urges easily but it comes with a social and psychological price.
actually, this punishment probably comes from males who think it's so unfair for hot chicks to have so much power.... so we get our revenge too.....
oh, and let's not discount the caution necessary in not getting yourself entangled with a clinger in the benign form and an all out stalker in its malignant manifestation.... hot chicks stir up POWERFUL PASSIONS in men.... sometimes, that ends up being extremely dangerous.
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yes, attractive women have a LOT of power. but a hot guy trumps it. if only it were easy to be one....
delta
Delta
Master Don Juan
errrr.... BTW, power is not an illusion.
if someone's got a gun pointed at your heart, no matter how much you believe that gun doesn't have the power to kill you, if that gun goes off, you're dead.
some stuff is psychologically subtle and perception plays a part.... other things will have "mechanical" consequences regardless of anybody's belief about anything.
an attractive girl's power is indeed based on perception but your personal denial of it will not diminish it - UNLESS you can convince every other guy in the world to follow suit.
if not, you may not fold under her but the fact remains that she knows that you're just a needle in the haystack and there's plenty more where you came from. that's power.
delta
if someone's got a gun pointed at your heart, no matter how much you believe that gun doesn't have the power to kill you, if that gun goes off, you're dead.
some stuff is psychologically subtle and perception plays a part.... other things will have "mechanical" consequences regardless of anybody's belief about anything.
an attractive girl's power is indeed based on perception but your personal denial of it will not diminish it - UNLESS you can convince every other guy in the world to follow suit.
if not, you may not fold under her but the fact remains that she knows that you're just a needle in the haystack and there's plenty more where you came from. that's power.
delta
spesmilitis
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sure they have some power. But overall power, man has more.
Ask yourself this, would you rather be a women?
Ask yourself this, would you rather be a women?
Delta
Master Don Juan
oh oh .... but here's another dilemma with a hot chick - it is VERY DIFFICULT FOR HER TO LAND A MAN OF HER OWN CALIBER!!!
because any guy that is equivalently hot will be in extremely high demand by other females and such a guy tends to be very... "DISTRACTIBLE"....
so they end up being in countless relationships where they hope it will turn into something but the guy bails because why marry steak when you can have a different cut of meat every day of the week?
so once again, they become highly likely to be unsatisfied with their lot in life.
so again... girls have power... but it is also in many ways a curse....
delta
because any guy that is equivalently hot will be in extremely high demand by other females and such a guy tends to be very... "DISTRACTIBLE"....
so they end up being in countless relationships where they hope it will turn into something but the guy bails because why marry steak when you can have a different cut of meat every day of the week?
so once again, they become highly likely to be unsatisfied with their lot in life.
so again... girls have power... but it is also in many ways a curse....
delta
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Delta
Master Don Juan
a hot chick has FAR MORE POWER than an afc guy.spesmilitis said:
order of power looks like this:
1. hot guy
2. hot chick
3. afc guy
4. afc chick (fat/ugly/unattractive)
5. worstcasescenario guy
6. worstcasescenario chick
delta
I think your best bet is to admit to yourself they have power(no point in denying it) and just work within that framework the best way you know how. Just like the guy that has way more money than you, there is no point in hating him or trying to out spend him, just try to befriend him and maybe you'll get some benefits from it..
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Absolutely not. You obviously were dating a woman who wasn't into you as much as you were her. Don't blame it on the PUA nor the woman, it was you who chose a woman who wasn't that into you.The_Reaper said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
She can't have what you don't give her.st_99 said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Errr, the gun has no power to kill you, IT'S AN INANIMATE OBJECT!! DUH!Delta said:
And as the guy holding the gun, he has no power unless you give it to him. Of course he can pull the trigger and you could die, but that is in no way the definition of power.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Actually I'm guessing that some of the guys in this thread get taken advantage of often and believe it's because someone by default has more power than them.
Delta
Master Don Juan
she may have no power over YOU but she has tremendous power because unless you convince society in joining you on the boycott, you are as nothing to her and you are a dime a dozen and constantly coming over as you're sitting their with your drink.
again, that is power.
as for the guy with the gun - ummmm... i'll disagree again - the ability to take life is power on an extreme level. it may be immature to seek that (as many kids in crime infested areas do) but it is nonetheless, raw, unadulterated, probably unearned, power - REGARDLESS OF YOUR PERCEPTION. you may not alter your behavior for him but he has the ability to determine your destiny with some degree of finality.
errr... yeah... that's power.
i think you're defining power purely as the ability to "EXERT INFLUENCE"... but another way to look at it is the ability to "DETERMINE OR EFFECT A DESIRED OUTCOME" or more simply "TO GET DONE WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO". the first can be dependent on perception but as noted, unless you can get everyone to agree with you, perception plays only immunize yourself and does nothing to reduce the power of the powerful in a general sense. the second sense - the guy with the gun, nuclear weapon (why we're so keen on iran not getting the bomb btw) is less (at times FAR LESS) susceptible to what anybody thinks about it....
delta
again, that is power.
as for the guy with the gun - ummmm... i'll disagree again - the ability to take life is power on an extreme level. it may be immature to seek that (as many kids in crime infested areas do) but it is nonetheless, raw, unadulterated, probably unearned, power - REGARDLESS OF YOUR PERCEPTION. you may not alter your behavior for him but he has the ability to determine your destiny with some degree of finality.
errr... yeah... that's power.
i think you're defining power purely as the ability to "EXERT INFLUENCE"... but another way to look at it is the ability to "DETERMINE OR EFFECT A DESIRED OUTCOME" or more simply "TO GET DONE WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO". the first can be dependent on perception but as noted, unless you can get everyone to agree with you, perception plays only immunize yourself and does nothing to reduce the power of the powerful in a general sense. the second sense - the guy with the gun, nuclear weapon (why we're so keen on iran not getting the bomb btw) is less (at times FAR LESS) susceptible to what anybody thinks about it....
delta
Delta said:
even if he says she has no power over him he is simply lieing to himself. What I'm saying is, you dont have to beg or act like a fool to get her to like you to be powerless. Even if you're strong confident guy that can just walk, it doesnt matter...she still has power over you because deep down you know you want your arm around her (unless your gay of course)
Its much better being a guy.
You don't have to walk in a dark street by yourself and worry about being raped.
You have the strength to move and work on heavy things which chicks weakly bodies can't do.
You are less likely to be hijacked by your emotions and do stupid things.
You can pee standing up and don't have to wipe.
You can feel horny whenever you feel like it and always cvm.
Your looks don't deteriorite as fast as women and you are less likely to suffer as many ailments as they do.
Let the hot one's have the illusion of power, its just a matter of time before they lose it all and have another HB take her place.
Oh and one last thing lets not forget that in order to get that so called "power" she still has to bend over for a man so she can be jackhammered from behind. I am glad as a man I don't have to bend over for anyone to get something.
You don't have to walk in a dark street by yourself and worry about being raped.
You have the strength to move and work on heavy things which chicks weakly bodies can't do.
You are less likely to be hijacked by your emotions and do stupid things.
You can pee standing up and don't have to wipe.
You can feel horny whenever you feel like it and always cvm.
Your looks don't deteriorite as fast as women and you are less likely to suffer as many ailments as they do.
Let the hot one's have the illusion of power, its just a matter of time before they lose it all and have another HB take her place.
Oh and one last thing lets not forget that in order to get that so called "power" she still has to bend over for a man so she can be jackhammered from behind. I am glad as a man I don't have to bend over for anyone to get something.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.