flowtheory
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And that would be not giving a fvck, or telling her if she hangs out 1on1 again and she’ll be kicking rocks?
Or?
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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Does Emotional cheating count ?
- Thread starter mikey2012
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Or?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
or.....just disappear and ghost her.
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I don’t get it: if she’s one plate of a few you are dating it’s not exclusive anyway. How is it cheating if the relationship isn’t exclusive?
flowtheory
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If that’s what you want. But I thought you liked her. And I’m taking what he said as one is in a relationship with the woman
I was dating her exclusively.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I did like her until I found out she liked someone else.
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You’re finished buddy.
Women in love with their men don’t even want to entertain other guys. Drop her immediately.
Women in love with their men don’t even want to entertain other guys. Drop her immediately.
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AJ84
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My bad. You said you had other chicks in your rotation and I understood that to mean that they are actually seeing you. I admit the concept of plates and rotations seems to have many definitions on this site.
So in that light no it’s not cool that she is hanging out with another man like that. It’s disrespectful. Would she be ok with you hanging out with another woman in the same way? Probably not. Don’t put up with it.
Personally I would slvtshame this one. Never see it mentioned on the forum but it works if handled correctly. You are NOT butthurt, you are just a guy with principles and she broke them. Call her what she is and then walk. It's effective.
I think the orbiters need to be kept to a bare minimum at worst. Look, you can say they have orbiters but I don't think hanging out with the opposite sex one-on-one is acceptable. Surely guys can find women that aren't go to do that much at a bare minimum. If not, what's the point. Hanging out one-on-one will eventually lead to something, bottom line.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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Here is where you went went wrong.
If she backs up, you back up. If she doesn't initiate texts, you don't initiate texts. This is how you keep the romantic energy undisturbed (assuming it doesn't end there).
Think of her investments (of initiating) as reinforcements of her attraction to you. If you invest, and she doesn't, it is no longer a romantic interaction. It changes to something else entirely.
These are absolute deal breakers and the collapse of your shared romantic energy. Everything that followed is simply post-breakup rapport.mikey2012 said:
She disrespected you. She challenged your manhood. She told you definitively you are out. The relationship was over right then and there. Once a woman openly defies you, it's finished. You cannot see her again. It's not like generations past where you could discipline her and keep her.
What you do now is walk away. No anger. Just realize you are now a free agent. Step your game up and use this as an opportunity to find hotter women.
This is 100% completely false. I've been picked up by plenty of women at 1 AM, 1:30 AM, we figure out logistics, sex that night/morning. Later, I find out they have a "boyfriend" they never bothered to mention.
Easy h0es exist, shock horror. Most women aren't like that
The blue pill is very comforting, I get that.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Bro . I did pull back . She never replied to a text I sent her . I felt something was off but I never double texted asking her why she didn’t reply . I just cut off contact . After a week she text me , asking how I was doing .
Anyway maybe I made some beta moves subconsciously which led her to stray . I let my guard down and may game was soft.
I know typically your are not supposed to but I did slvt shame her and it felt good. Before I knew about the other guy I was worried about losing her but for some reason when I found out , I don’t anymore.
I can’t go back to her, especially now she knows I know she was hanging out and had a “thing “ for some other guy .
The only course of action is to walk away. Whether she cheated or not doesn’t matter. She disrespected me and if I hang around it’s only going to get worse .
I’m just annoyed at myself for being lazy and getting into this situation . Also my beta days came flashing back as I worried about losing her. I didn’t show it but I felt it inside .
During the time she didn’t text me back I was constantly thinking about her which I didn’t do I’m the past because I was sure she was always “into “ me. My gut told me 9/10 a change in behavior means another guy in the picture .
However I did resist the urge to blow up at her asking why she’s being so cold.
There was an excellent article on Chateau Heartiste called “ How to revive a flagging relationship ?”
Basically cut off contact , which I did . I must have read that thing a hundred times .
Well now I know the truth I feel a weight off Mr shoulders .
Time to game other chicks .
I know typically your are not supposed to but I did slvt shame her and it felt good. Before I knew about the other guy I was worried about losing her but for some reason when I found out , I don’t anymore.
I can’t go back to her, especially now she knows I know she was hanging out and had a “thing “ for some other guy .
The only course of action is to walk away. Whether she cheated or not doesn’t matter. She disrespected me and if I hang around it’s only going to get worse .
I’m just annoyed at myself for being lazy and getting into this situation . Also my beta days came flashing back as I worried about losing her. I didn’t show it but I felt it inside .
During the time she didn’t text me back I was constantly thinking about her which I didn’t do I’m the past because I was sure she was always “into “ me. My gut told me 9/10 a change in behavior means another guy in the picture .
However I did resist the urge to blow up at her asking why she’s being so cold.
There was an excellent article on Chateau Heartiste called “ How to revive a flagging relationship ?”
Basically cut off contact , which I did . I must have read that thing a hundred times .
Well now I know the truth I feel a weight off Mr shoulders .
Time to game other chicks .
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This is self evident. Even if no cheating, but you will never know if that’s the truth. The second she gets critical. Arguing and telling you to shut up?
She is looking for a justification for what she is about to do or has already done. She will forgive her new dik almost anything. The boyfriend or husband she will forgive nothing.
I didn’t break frame . The most I did was ask her to get some days off during Easter so we could go away . She text me when she got a few days off and then I text her back saying let’s go “xxx”. After that she never replied.
I didn’t follow up . She never responded until 9 days later asking how I am. I acted cool and said I was busy and never mentioned anything about her not replying back.
We exchanged some texts after but the tone was significantly different from before. Colder and distant. Even when I came back from my trip and planned to see her there was no enthusiasm in her responses.
When I finally met her things were ok . We fvcked and she was back to her old self saying she missed me and shyt. However there were subtle signs of contempt when she spoke to me . I brushed it off. Before I would ask her to do something and she would do it . Now she was defying my orders. So my gut told me something wasn’t right.
We had a fight on the last day when i told her to put something in a safe place but she didn’t and eventually lost it. I told her I told you so and she told me to shut up. Afterwards we made up and fvcked .
I think the problem is that she’s taking me for granted now and not seeing me as a challenge . Maybe she saw me as too available . Whatever ..
I’ve now ghosted her.
I didn’t follow up . She never responded until 9 days later asking how I am. I acted cool and said I was busy and never mentioned anything about her not replying back.
We exchanged some texts after but the tone was significantly different from before. Colder and distant. Even when I came back from my trip and planned to see her there was no enthusiasm in her responses.
When I finally met her things were ok . We fvcked and she was back to her old self saying she missed me and shyt. However there were subtle signs of contempt when she spoke to me . I brushed it off. Before I would ask her to do something and she would do it . Now she was defying my orders. So my gut told me something wasn’t right.
We had a fight on the last day when i told her to put something in a safe place but she didn’t and eventually lost it. I told her I told you so and she told me to shut up. Afterwards we made up and fvcked .
I think the problem is that she’s taking me for granted now and not seeing me as a challenge . Maybe she saw me as too available . Whatever ..
I’ve now ghosted her.
I’ve penetrated life to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. Still can’t get divorced women to call me back.
Maybe do something else before they show up and want be f*cked?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.