"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Does Emotional cheating count ?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
if she goes like there, one of 2 you are not your priorioty, she knows don't matter what she do you will still be around her till she get bored of you
Ive been out of town for a few weeks and during that time she was acting distant (didnt initiate texts, sometimes didnt text back and texts were cold). Came back and we met up and had secs but was nitpicking ie arguing, critcizing, telling me to shut up..which was out of character. My gut told me there maybe another guy in the picture.
Found a few days later she's been hanging out with another guy smoking weed and she "likes" that guy.
Now her behaviour made sense. Then I confronted her and she said she didnt cheat, etc. I dont know whether to believe that or not.
Im not jealous of her hanging out with other guys. I dont like it but I cant stop it. But the thing is her behaviour to me changed which means she must be "into" the other guy.
Anyway im prepared to pull the rip cord and now have ghosted her...
My thoughts exactly. She said she didnt cheat, she maybe telling the truth this time. But it will happen again and she will cheat. Your GF should never put herself in a situation to "like" another guy. The consolation is that my gut was exactly right.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Yes I guess I was demoted to 2nd place and was not a priority to her since she was probably texting/seeing him at the same time.
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If you want her around keep her, if you don't bin her. Let her chase you. Do you have any other women you are dating?
I have evolved over the years.
I have a plate who likes me a lot. I have a "don't give a fu*k attitude" towards her. I treat her with respect.
She is well aware that if she steps out of line, there's a big chance I will not see her again. Keeps her behaviour up to a good standard.
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Guaranteed they ****ed or will do so in the near future if you tolerate that behaviour. My girlfriend hanging out one on one with a guy is an absolute deal breaker. Not that im insecure, but it shows lack of respect on her part.
They fall for a guy SLOWLY over time
She's not going to svck a guys **** she just met
Instead she's gonna distance her emotions from you and re-direct them towards another
The good news is 99% of guys out there are cucks
So all you have to do is act like a man and you'll be fine
Yes man, I have other chicks in my rotation but this one I've been banging for around 5 months and she sees me as her "bf". She knows I can get other women easy.
I am quite relieved now that I found out she may have someone else. When her behaviour pattern changed I tried not to slip into beta backsliding mode. When I was away I texted her but I got no response so I didnt text back. She texted me back a week later. However during that time I was thinking and overthinking what could be happening and Ive been there before. Usually a pattern change means another guy is in the picture. I was scared of losing her at that point. Then I realized I might be too "into" her. When I finally got back and met her again she was cordial but still I noticed a change of behaviour. I couldnt pinpoint to it because she still had affection and we had secs, but something was not right. There were tell tale signs, of her being more bold, contemptuous, before I could sense she would bend over backwards to please me and was scared of losing me. This time there was more defiance and "I don't care" attitude. Still I didnt slip into beta mode, although inside I was burning up.
So when I found that she was hanging out with another dude, I confronted her, telling her I knew everything. She kept on denying that she cheated and told me she likes me and I knew that. I wouldn't have minded so much if she was hanging out with some dudes because at the end of day, hot chicks will have a lot of beta orbiters but the thing that struck me was that her behaviour towards me changed which in turn meant she was "into' the other guy. Turns out this guy is only here for a few weeks and will be leaving soon. But after I found out it felt like a huge weight off my shoulders. Turns out my gut was spot on.
I havent made up my mind whether I will completely bin her or not. But for now I'm going to ghost her and bang other chicks. Im going to make it difficult for her to reach out to me. If she doesnt then no big deal.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Agree 100% . However even if she cheated, it wont last long. I found out this guy is only here for a few weeks. But yes, you are right, its prelude to cheating. Even if its not this guy it will be another somewhere down the road. Maybe the relationship ran its course and I need to move on or demote her to a low level plate.
Im annoyed at myself for falling into this situation of "needing her" more than she needed me. I didnt show this but women sense these things. Maybe that led her to stray. You need to give them uncertainty or the feeling that you will walk at any moment to keep them on their toes. I havent been doing that lately. Lesson to us all.
I'd say it's highly (no pun intended) unlikely that she hung out, smoked weed with the guy and nothing happened. I mean, it's like her going to a party with a guy, drinking all night and then telling you nothing happened. Except they had their own private party it sounds like. Now think about it, do you really believe that nothing went on? No way to really know but remember, don't believe what she said, believe what she did. I think the magic eight ball tells you that all signs point to cheating.
And you shouldn't be ok with your woman having all kinds of male orbiters. She hanging out with guys, one-on-one, that she admits she likes, either she's cheated or intends to cheat at some point. There's no other way around it.
I dont like it but I cant stop it. Yes I shouldnt be ok with male orbiters but hot chicks will always have them so you need to deal with it. Now the thing is that she "likes" him, well that is a deal breaker, whether cheated or not.
See that's where your mentality is off. Walk through open doors, don't try and beat on closed doors until one opens. When you allow the woman to "decide" to hang out with you, date you, have sex with you, you've already lost frame. You want women who want to be with you. That comes as a result of you chasing excellence. Make yourself your own mental point of origin and the women will follow, the ones who really want to come along on the ride you're on. The women you speak of, they're depreciating assets the moment you get with them.
I dont allow them to "decide" what to do. I lead them to do what I want them to do. Im just stating a fact that women will always have beta orbiters.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
YES. Agree. Its a slippery slope.
Yes . Thank you. Master SPAZ.
I have stripper friends.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.