"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Does being persistent actually turn them off (HB9s and above)?

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I think they are probably fed up with guys chasing them for too long. To them, It's just desperation IMO. Not that much different.


Thoughts?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Paradox of SS:

To get women you have to use game and approach. But to get women you have to act indifferent and like you don't give a fug
 

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skinnyguy said:
Paradox of SS:

To get women you have to use game and approach. But to get women you have to act indifferent and like you don't give a fug
Not really.

If the girl finds you attractive then you have(or can) to use game and approach while acting indifferent etc. to maintain interest and all that.. If you do it on a girl that doesn't even find you attractive then you're boned.
 

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Define persistent?
Persistence at all stages. Approaching, arranging the first date and finally, escalation.


For example you approach a HB9 and she completely ignores your existence. Or hell, some of them even scream at you, which I shrug it off with giggling or asking her to stop crying. Do you look like a fool if you keep talking to her?
 

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Well then I have to lower my standards personally. Probably down to HB4-5s. I thought being a tad stubborn during the approach would be OK. Should I give up chasing the hot ones? This is how I look, sort of :
http://www.spainisculture.com/export/sites/cultura/multimedia/galerias/autores/antonio_banderas_elmundo.jpg


However I'm really short, around 170cm. Also my voice and speakings sounds whiny and weird, IE I feel a little stuck sometimes not knowing what to say.

This is how I answererd when a girl told me she had a BF:
HB8.5: I have a BF. He wouldn't be happy seeing us chatting.
Me: Oh poor girl. Only one BF? You should have 2 at least, increase your options.
HB8.5::eek:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Don't be fooled, they love it. The more orbiters and persistent chumps they have blowin up their phone, the happier they feel. Even if it's for a few short minutes. The more they feel like popular Hollywood starlets the better. What else do you think a girl does the bulk of her waking hours?? Calculating structural strengths of bridges on her new iPhone??
 

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VladPatton said:
Don't be fooled, they love it. The more orbiters and persistent chumps they have blowin up their phone, the happier they feel. Even if it's for a few short minutes.
Oh, I'm sure they love it. I'm sure it makes them feel happy and validated. The question should be does it make them feel attraction?

Anyway, I agree with Espi, that article that he linked to is a good one.
 

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zekko said:
The question should be does it make them feel attraction?
They could develop feelings in the long run
 
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