Ringleader41
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Like you try to give them input and they think you're crazy.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Do your friends think you're an idiot for reading the stuff on this site
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
Yes I told a friend of mine not to text a girl that blew him off and he thought I was nuts. He texted her 5 more times and she never responded.
Ringleader41
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Yes lol, i tell my friends that girls make it easier for guys that theyre attracted to you and they go off to defend themselves because its obviously not happening to them.Uncharted said:
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
A guy I work with has been with his chick for like 6 years. She cheated on him, apologized, and he took her back.
I've been trying to tell him to grab his b@lls and do something about it.
Response: but i love her
I think it takes a certain type of person to find this site, then a certain type to understand what's going on, and finally a certain type of person to actually change.
I've been trying to tell him to grab his b@lls and do something about it.
Response: but i love her
I think it takes a certain type of person to find this site, then a certain type to understand what's going on, and finally a certain type of person to actually change.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
MrNiceGuy23
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I told my friend about spinning plates and he loved the idea. I tell my other friends how to handle situations with women and they agree with me but none of them are capable of following through.
If you have past experiences with women who act like they do in threads on this site, then it is pretty easy (in my opinion) to realize most of what people say on this site make sense.
If you have past experiences with women who act like they do in threads on this site, then it is pretty easy (in my opinion) to realize most of what people say on this site make sense.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
I asked a similar question in a post a few months ago because I was wondering the same thing. Basically, I stopped giving any form of advice that we share here because dudes thought I was a real misogynistic crazy aʂʂhole. Bottom line is you should keep a lot of this sort of info to yourself unless you are asked for help. People HATE hearing the painful truth and the concepts of 'she's not interested in you', 'spinning pates', and 'nexting' are shocking. So I shut up and let em writhe in their own AFC ways.
After all, what do I know? I'm not in an LTR, nor, puʂʂywhipped, nor married, or have 2.5 kids, or drive a mini-van to a house I can't afford to a fat wife I don't bang.
*chuckle*
After all, what do I know? I'm not in an LTR, nor, puʂʂywhipped, nor married, or have 2.5 kids, or drive a mini-van to a house I can't afford to a fat wife I don't bang.
*chuckle*
One time a friend asked a question about spinning plates and I explained...he thought it was stupid. I just laughed at his ignorance. He's the one with 3 kids, all different moms and paying child support...not really a friend, more like an acquaintance btw.
PapiChulo
Master Don Juan
Uncharted has made a very valid point. I honestly believe that you should not be introduced to this material at all. One should find his way naturally. There are people that I would rather never introduce to any of this material.
SamTheHobit
Master Don Juan
I don’t have friends.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
"Chumps will be chumps until they realize what they are and want to change. No one can help you but yourself. I became frustrated enough that I looked for a better way. And that's what intelligent men eventually do."
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1885875&postcount=12
Also:
Law 38
Think as you like but Behave like others
"If you make a show of going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you for making them feel inferior. It is far safer to blend in and nurture the common touch. Share your originality only with tolerant friends and those who are sure to appreciate your uniqueness."
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1885875&postcount=12
Also:
Law 38
Think as you like but Behave like others
"If you make a show of going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you for making them feel inferior. It is far safer to blend in and nurture the common touch. Share your originality only with tolerant friends and those who are sure to appreciate your uniqueness."
PlayHer Man
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I only advise men who are open to learning. If they have their head up their ass then I don't waste my time because I know it will fall on def ears.
Some people have to learn things the hard way and some people never learn. You can't save every man.. just like you can't f*ck every girl.
Some people have to learn things the hard way and some people never learn. You can't save every man.. just like you can't f*ck every girl.
This is the most pathetic and overused beta line in the universe. Its like love gives them an excuse to engage in all sorts of ridiculous, supplicating, groveling behavior and put up with all sorts of disrespect. Anyways, to get on topic I wouldn't bother telling any friends about this. One does not simply drop something like this on a person. Maybe drip feed it to them for a bit to see if they have an open mind.Uncharted said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Eternal_water
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I have no friends either, and if I did I would not tell them that I need to read these sites.