"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do you think wifey should get paid for doing housework and ... ahem, "personal services"?

MatureDJ

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I was reading this, and it got me perturbed.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/college-course-supports-women-getting-paid-for-housework/

Eugene Lang College will be offering a class in the fall that is based around the belief that women should get paid for “emotional labor” and doing chores around the house.

The course, called “Love and Currency,” is based on Silvia Federici’s 1975 essay “Wages Against Housework.”

“Wages for housework is only the beginning,” Federici writes, explaining that husbands should “pay us . . . not one wage, but many wages, because we have been forced into many jobs at once.”
‘They say it is love, we say it is unwaged work.’

“Many forms of labor, which are often not recognized as labor, fall along lines of gender, race and class,” it continues. “Whether changing nappies and washing an endless build of up dishes, caring for elderly and infirm family members, working multiple jobs without legal protection, or bearing up under everyday sexual harassment, constricting gender norms and systemic racism, invisible labor is exhausting.”
my opinion: So men are supposed to "man up" to this? :eek::down:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I was reading this, and it got me perturbed.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/college-course-supports-women-getting-paid-for-housework/





my opinion: So men are supposed to "man up" to this? :eek::down:
sure since that is teh case I think we should also discount, boarding and housing, utility usage, and certainly any other bill she make the dude pay, I alwyas find it funny people saying that, you never do consider what you are getting, in the end it would be far more cheaper to pay a house keeper and do it with prostitutes

though if someone consider taking baths and brushing teeths as labor, he really have some serious issues and all this crap shouldn't be even considered serious
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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sure since that is teh case I think we should also discount, boarding and housing, utility usage, and certainly any other bill she make the dude pay, I alwyas find it funny people saying that, you never do consider what you are getting, in the end it would be far more cheaper to pay a house keeper and do it with prostitutes
Just fvck the housekeeper.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Pay the wife for sex?? Hahaha.

I'd tell her no problem. Plenty of women will fvck me for free, I've got a spending freeze in place.

But you only need to pull this tactic if your wife is not physically attracted to you anymore or thinks you have no options. Neither is the case with me.
 

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I will say this:

If the husband is working while the wife stays home to raise kids and take care of the house, and that is by design, then they have some sort of partnership. So she certainly should have her own money to do with as she wishes, just as the guy should. Obviously this would come out of the husband's paycheck, since he has the only income. It's only fair. Hopefully there is enough to pay the bills and save/invest for the future, as well as have a little luxury here and there. But for there to be an itemized bill for services, no, that's ridiculous.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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