"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Do you think "loser" men are attracted to mothers because they are "instant family"?

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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/09/advertisement-for-murder/309435/5/

... the isolation and vulnerability of so many working-class men, who have been pushed by the faltering economy from one way of life—a nine-to-five job, a wife, children—into another, far more precarious one: unemployed or underemployed, single or divorced, crashing on relatives’ spare beds or in the backseats of cars.

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In some cases, when a man was courting a woman, Edin found that he would court her child so intensely that it seemed “the child was the main audience for his affections,” not the mother.

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... for men who are failing the traditional tests of marriage and parenting, this kind of intense emotional connection “is the last form of identity available.” It’s a way to maintain a sense of family if you can’t be a reliable breadwinner, or even keep up with child support.
BTW, the whole article is interesting in its own right! :eek: :nervous:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Lots of dudes are getting themselves into the situation of raising/supporting kids that aren't theirs. I steer clear of single mothers that have no contact with the ex. That means she's looking for a daddy and a checkbook. Nope.
 
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Lots of guys want to feel wanted and needed and just aren't aware why they are really wanted and needed, because their blueprint of intimacy that they constructed over their lives appears to be met under the single mother type, which they don't realize is an archetype; because, of course, she is different. They also find the idea of being this figure of support and love with a single mother and her kids as ideal to fulfilling their intimacy blueprints, without realizing that he is merely an idealization of father figure (utility) to her.

To answer your question, no. These guys aren't losers per say. Many I'm sure are good guys -those that aren't using these types of women that is- and are following their hearts more than reason. Morons, misguided, inexperienced, hyper- romantics, ignoramuses may be better suited terms.
 

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I have a friend who keeps trying to set me up with single moms. That's his ****ing selling point, ready made family. The funny thing is, his ready made family was riding the carousal hard before he came along and saved her. Pof pump n dump because honestly she's not that hot. One drunken night she told me about her dating life and her white knight. She didn't want to be 30 with nothing. Buddy beams at this, happy to play the role. Now he's starting a business because she says he doesn't make enough money.
 

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My older cousin married a woman with two kids. She's diagnosed BPD too...though we didnt find that out until they had been married for a few years. She is also 6 years older than him. Fast forward 14 years later. He divorces the b*tch that he gave the best years of his life to (32-46). Those two kids that he helped raise/support? Gone. They rarely speak to him...unless they NEED something. The ex-wife? She's a lesbian now. He's late 40's and has found a nice girlfriend. But he went through 14 years of hell. No thanks...no instant family for me.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Oh it's Hanna Rosin, the author of "the end of men" and another Gentile hating feminist Jewess...*Yawn*

edit: wtf is up with the by-line?:
A serial killer finds a newly vulnerable class of victims: white, working-class men.
Her and her ilk have been doing their darndest to portray white working class males as the oppressive devil for the past 5 decades. What's with the complete 180 all of a sudden?
 
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