"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Do you think "loser" men are attracted to mothers because they are "instant family"?

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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/09/advertisement-for-murder/309435/5/

... the isolation and vulnerability of so many working-class men, who have been pushed by the faltering economy from one way of life—a nine-to-five job, a wife, children—into another, far more precarious one: unemployed or underemployed, single or divorced, crashing on relatives’ spare beds or in the backseats of cars.

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In some cases, when a man was courting a woman, Edin found that he would court her child so intensely that it seemed “the child was the main audience for his affections,” not the mother.

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... for men who are failing the traditional tests of marriage and parenting, this kind of intense emotional connection “is the last form of identity available.” It’s a way to maintain a sense of family if you can’t be a reliable breadwinner, or even keep up with child support.
BTW, the whole article is interesting in its own right! :eek: :nervous:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Lots of dudes are getting themselves into the situation of raising/supporting kids that aren't theirs. I steer clear of single mothers that have no contact with the ex. That means she's looking for a daddy and a checkbook. Nope.
 
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Lots of guys want to feel wanted and needed and just aren't aware why they are really wanted and needed, because their blueprint of intimacy that they constructed over their lives appears to be met under the single mother type, which they don't realize is an archetype; because, of course, she is different. They also find the idea of being this figure of support and love with a single mother and her kids as ideal to fulfilling their intimacy blueprints, without realizing that he is merely an idealization of father figure (utility) to her.

To answer your question, no. These guys aren't losers per say. Many I'm sure are good guys -those that aren't using these types of women that is- and are following their hearts more than reason. Morons, misguided, inexperienced, hyper- romantics, ignoramuses may be better suited terms.
 

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I have a friend who keeps trying to set me up with single moms. That's his ****ing selling point, ready made family. The funny thing is, his ready made family was riding the carousal hard before he came along and saved her. Pof pump n dump because honestly she's not that hot. One drunken night she told me about her dating life and her white knight. She didn't want to be 30 with nothing. Buddy beams at this, happy to play the role. Now he's starting a business because she says he doesn't make enough money.
 

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My older cousin married a woman with two kids. She's diagnosed BPD too...though we didnt find that out until they had been married for a few years. She is also 6 years older than him. Fast forward 14 years later. He divorces the b*tch that he gave the best years of his life to (32-46). Those two kids that he helped raise/support? Gone. They rarely speak to him...unless they NEED something. The ex-wife? She's a lesbian now. He's late 40's and has found a nice girlfriend. But he went through 14 years of hell. No thanks...no instant family for me.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Oh it's Hanna Rosin, the author of "the end of men" and another Gentile hating feminist Jewess...*Yawn*

edit: wtf is up with the by-line?:
A serial killer finds a newly vulnerable class of victims: white, working-class men.
Her and her ilk have been doing their darndest to portray white working class males as the oppressive devil for the past 5 decades. What's with the complete 180 all of a sudden?
 
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