"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Do you think it's bad to use women...?

SeymourCake

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Do you think it's bad to use other women to be around you to be preselected from the view of a woman who you're trying to get?

This takes me back in the high school days where girls would intentionally would talk to other guys to make you feel jealous, and they made it blatantly obvious. I don't want to stoop my level down to that extent.

I guess it wouldn't matter if you're trying to attract a complete stranger, but it would seem stupid to use it against a women you're trying to reclaim?

Another question that's off topic. I'm starting to read the SoSuave articles and I came across this one.

http://www.sosuave.com/articles/jv/make-women-approach-you.htm?forum

What does it mean to "rock your shoulders from side to side?" I've been doing the first three steps, but I can't seem to get woman to approach me. When it comes to style, should I wear something out the ordinary or something?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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in war and getting laid there is no right or wrong... no good or bad. anything it takes to complete your objective.
 

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Tiguere said:
in war and getting laid there is no right or wrong... no good or bad. anything it takes to complete your objective.

If that was the case, then I would be raping these women left to right.

Then again, the two of the top 5 sexual fantasy women have is rape and sex with a complete stranger according to askmen.com, but I don't want to risk it.
 

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im referring to seduction..manipulation...deception..Exploit .etc etc etc
 

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SeymourCake said:
Do you think it's bad to use other women to be around you to be preselected from the view of a woman who you're trying to get?
Depends: if you have female friends that are on your side, it makes it a lot easier. I always like being surrounded by girls, even if they're just friends. If they think you're a cool guy, they'll definitely help you out and try to set you up.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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