"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Do you think it's bad to use women...?

SeymourCake

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Do you think it's bad to use other women to be around you to be preselected from the view of a woman who you're trying to get?

This takes me back in the high school days where girls would intentionally would talk to other guys to make you feel jealous, and they made it blatantly obvious. I don't want to stoop my level down to that extent.

I guess it wouldn't matter if you're trying to attract a complete stranger, but it would seem stupid to use it against a women you're trying to reclaim?

Another question that's off topic. I'm starting to read the SoSuave articles and I came across this one.

http://www.sosuave.com/articles/jv/make-women-approach-you.htm?forum

What does it mean to "rock your shoulders from side to side?" I've been doing the first three steps, but I can't seem to get woman to approach me. When it comes to style, should I wear something out the ordinary or something?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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in war and getting laid there is no right or wrong... no good or bad. anything it takes to complete your objective.
 

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Tiguere said:
in war and getting laid there is no right or wrong... no good or bad. anything it takes to complete your objective.

If that was the case, then I would be raping these women left to right.

Then again, the two of the top 5 sexual fantasy women have is rape and sex with a complete stranger according to askmen.com, but I don't want to risk it.
 

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im referring to seduction..manipulation...deception..Exploit .etc etc etc
 

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SeymourCake said:
Do you think it's bad to use other women to be around you to be preselected from the view of a woman who you're trying to get?
Depends: if you have female friends that are on your side, it makes it a lot easier. I always like being surrounded by girls, even if they're just friends. If they think you're a cool guy, they'll definitely help you out and try to set you up.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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