"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Do you think incel violence could be tamed by widespread legal prostitution?

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Who Dares Win

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Its not about sex, its about validation and there is nothing society can do at this point.

The message is that everyone is having sex except losers and this message is broadcasted to a multitude of guys who lack the means to have sex even if they do their best.

No amount of game or money can help a short skinny fat guy to get laid in high school nowadays.

Prostitution wont help unless it decrease the demands of women, it surely wont help to fix the frustrated minds of incels.
 

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nah - prostitution is basically legal here in teh UK, and there's a sh1t load of angry incels everywhere. It's why there's so much violence every night here I think. People see these super pretty girls prancing around, they get rejected because she's not interested in chatting to some random average (or below average) looking dude, he gets drunk and there's mass violence on the street at 3am without fail lol
 

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I have no problems with legal prostitution and as a matter of fact it is only a matter of time before it will be legal throughout the U.S.. Having said that it will be like using a band aid to heal a broken leg. The incels want more than sex, what they want is real intimacy and the validation that comes from being a man that women are attracted to. It may stop mass shootings but I think the violence will shift to something like what @cheyne described happening in the UK. This is one of the reasons why having a firearm on you is important.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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There is no such thing as "Incel violence." There's violence and there are people who commit violent acts.

If prostitution was legalized tomorrow, they'd still be violent.
 

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Ten bucks says the guys posting those tweets are themselves incels who can't get laid.

The worse part is that these people actually WANT there to be violence and shootings because it gives them another reason to push the narrative that they've made up.
 

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The problem is most sex is transactional already. Making it more overt won't help.

What these men desire is a woman to genuinely desire them. If it was about just sex they would take a trip to Nevada and visit a brothel.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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sex ratio around world

probably need to reduce the male population percentage more, perhaps a war, and administratively limit the number of plates allowed to any one man with strong penalty or it will eventually solve itself, it always does. the slaves(lower class) rebel and take the harem by force.

this is a problem between men, not women. greed at its finest.
 

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I agree that most incels want validation and genuine desire from women, not services from prosties.

Notwithstanding, I don’t think legalizing it will necessarily make it affordable for incels in the US.

It’s already legal in parts of Nevada, but it’s priced high enough to only cater to high-end clients.

My prediction is it would start out cheap, and then prices would go through the roof. Then it will be cost prohibitive for incels or average income guys.

You’ll never see a reasonably priced “red light district” in the US.
 

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It's cheap in the UK. Tonnes of extremely hot, teenage Polish, Latvian etc girls and stuff work many places in the UK (probably thought they were getting a job doing something very different!!) and it's not expensive. And it's basically legal
 

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I think this is a bit speculative and assumes that all incels are the same. I think for some it won't help due to the validation issue, but for others it will put them at ease knowing that it being simply transnational and really no big deal.

It should not be illegal if it is consenting adults, but I'm not endorsing it either.

As far as the economics: In the long run prices balance out at market clearing assuming that the government does not get involved (and I'm sure that they would want their cut in taxes). If prostitutes make good money, I would not at all be surprised to see more girls with eyes on that money.
 

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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