MatureDJ
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Do you think incel violence could be tamed by widespread legal prostitution?
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Its not about sex, its about validation and there is nothing society can do at this point.
The message is that everyone is having sex except losers and this message is broadcasted to a multitude of guys who lack the means to have sex even if they do their best.
No amount of game or money can help a short skinny fat guy to get laid in high school nowadays.
Prostitution wont help unless it decrease the demands of women, it surely wont help to fix the frustrated minds of incels.
The message is that everyone is having sex except losers and this message is broadcasted to a multitude of guys who lack the means to have sex even if they do their best.
No amount of game or money can help a short skinny fat guy to get laid in high school nowadays.
Prostitution wont help unless it decrease the demands of women, it surely wont help to fix the frustrated minds of incels.
nah - prostitution is basically legal here in teh UK, and there's a sh1t load of angry incels everywhere. It's why there's so much violence every night here I think. People see these super pretty girls prancing around, they get rejected because she's not interested in chatting to some random average (or below average) looking dude, he gets drunk and there's mass violence on the street at 3am without fail lol
I have no problems with legal prostitution and as a matter of fact it is only a matter of time before it will be legal throughout the U.S.. Having said that it will be like using a band aid to heal a broken leg. The incels want more than sex, what they want is real intimacy and the validation that comes from being a man that women are attracted to. It may stop mass shootings but I think the violence will shift to something like what @cheyne described happening in the UK. This is one of the reasons why having a firearm on you is important.
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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
touma.akagi
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There is no such thing as "Incel violence." There's violence and there are people who commit violent acts.
If prostitution was legalized tomorrow, they'd still be violent.
If prostitution was legalized tomorrow, they'd still be violent.
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Ten bucks says the guys posting those tweets are themselves incels who can't get laid.
The worse part is that these people actually WANT there to be violence and shootings because it gives them another reason to push the narrative that they've made up.
The worse part is that these people actually WANT there to be violence and shootings because it gives them another reason to push the narrative that they've made up.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say prostitution wouldn't hurt.
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The problem is most sex is transactional already. Making it more overt won't help.
What these men desire is a woman to genuinely desire them. If it was about just sex they would take a trip to Nevada and visit a brothel.
What these men desire is a woman to genuinely desire them. If it was about just sex they would take a trip to Nevada and visit a brothel.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
metalwater
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sex ratio around world
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probably need to reduce the male population percentage more, perhaps a war, and administratively limit the number of plates allowed to any one man with strong penalty or it will eventually solve itself, it always does. the slaves(lower class) rebel and take the harem by force.
this is a problem between men, not women. greed at its finest.
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Human sex ratio - Wikipedia
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probably need to reduce the male population percentage more, perhaps a war, and administratively limit the number of plates allowed to any one man with strong penalty or it will eventually solve itself, it always does. the slaves(lower class) rebel and take the harem by force.
this is a problem between men, not women. greed at its finest.
Nash equilibrium - Wikipedia
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I agree that most incels want validation and genuine desire from women, not services from prosties.
Notwithstanding, I don’t think legalizing it will necessarily make it affordable for incels in the US.
It’s already legal in parts of Nevada, but it’s priced high enough to only cater to high-end clients.
My prediction is it would start out cheap, and then prices would go through the roof. Then it will be cost prohibitive for incels or average income guys.
You’ll never see a reasonably priced “red light district” in the US.
Notwithstanding, I don’t think legalizing it will necessarily make it affordable for incels in the US.
It’s already legal in parts of Nevada, but it’s priced high enough to only cater to high-end clients.
My prediction is it would start out cheap, and then prices would go through the roof. Then it will be cost prohibitive for incels or average income guys.
You’ll never see a reasonably priced “red light district” in the US.
It's cheap in the UK. Tonnes of extremely hot, teenage Polish, Latvian etc girls and stuff work many places in the UK (probably thought they were getting a job doing something very different!!) and it's not expensive. And it's basically legal
Plinco
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I think this is a bit speculative and assumes that all incels are the same. I think for some it won't help due to the validation issue, but for others it will put them at ease knowing that it being simply transnational and really no big deal.
It should not be illegal if it is consenting adults, but I'm not endorsing it either.
As far as the economics: In the long run prices balance out at market clearing assuming that the government does not get involved (and I'm sure that they would want their cut in taxes). If prostitutes make good money, I would not at all be surprised to see more girls with eyes on that money.
It should not be illegal if it is consenting adults, but I'm not endorsing it either.
As far as the economics: In the long run prices balance out at market clearing assuming that the government does not get involved (and I'm sure that they would want their cut in taxes). If prostitutes make good money, I would not at all be surprised to see more girls with eyes on that money.
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The evangelicals and Cathlics will never accept this, but it could knock out two birds with one stone. One, help ladies with the student loan debt. Two, all these social losers to get their rocks off. Boom. No more mass killings outside of extremists (they want those 72 virgins).
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.