"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Do you need a hot fit body to get girls to screw on the spot

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I'm convinced that if you want to up your success rate a body especially a 6pack or muscles with v shape are necessary to be the final 'touch' on sealing the day & the #1 incentive to get girls to get busy with you... What are your thoughts?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It helps, yes. But its not 100% necessary. I suspect its well worthwhile, which is why I'm working on getting in great shape myself =)
 

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Me 2 I mean physical attraction which is sex isn't psychological as much as it is physical which is why you can't convince a girl to screw u if she ain't physically attracted to you.. I'm back in the gym aswell time to get that situation six pack
 

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I still think that your confidence level will drop if you dont feel you look good enough, that is the main culprit.

You need to be fairly cut and lean, V-body, nice set of pecs and arms, which is fairly doable over a short period of time.

The bulk would be great as well, but I dont think it's all that important. You have to be fit and athletic looking. I ve seen a few guys who arent all that big, but have a gymnast body, i.e. wide back/lats, pecs, big triceps/shoulders, who look extremely pleasing with the shirt off, but once you put the clothes on....the effect is diminished.

When I was heavier I used to fill the clothes better and girls did notice me more, but now that I am lean and I have to show it off here in there- tighter shirt, etc.

But: plenty average looking guys seal the deal everyday. In other words you can get away being less physically attractive yet having tight game, while the other way around won't work.
 
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Very true but I've noticed something if your hot & I mean hotttttt u don't need no game....

But I've noticed overall being lean/cut plays a major part
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What's with the sudden barrage of these threads all of a sudden? No, it doesn't play a major part. It plays a very, very, VERY minor part..not nearly enough to even think about. #1 incentive to get girls to sleep with you is having a 6-pack and a V taper? Please tell me you're just trolling and you don't actually have this mindset.

It's all an illusion. Those guys you see with 6-packs have confidence, which is what gets the girls in bed.
 

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And how are you going to show off your 6-pack on the spot, unless on the beach? Take off your shirt and scream HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME I'M DESPERATE?

Seriously, it takes an eternity of hard work and nutrition torture to get one. Work out regularly, yes. But the magical sixpack is not the magical solution. Once your looks are "pretty good", then better focus on something else. You still gotta do the work to actually "get" the girls (as I painfully experienced once more ;)). Otherwise you're just dressing up and expect girls to come to you.
 

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You don't need to be super fit with that compulsory six-pack at all. As long as you look fit and neat and tidy with a bit of self-confidence you have got it sorted with out hours and hours in the gym. You don't need the Game, women will be gaming you....
 

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Ludicrous I got laid on the spot when I was skinny. I'm buff now and it helps alot but out of shape people get laid too.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
What's with the sudden barrage of these threads all of a sudden? No, it doesn't play a major part. It plays a very, very, VERY minor part..not nearly enough to even think about. #1 incentive to get girls to sleep with you is having a 6-pack and a V taper? Please tell me you're just trolling and you don't actually have this mindset.

It's all an illusion. Those guys you see with 6-packs have confidence, which is what gets the girls in bed.
Why am I not suprised you appeared in this thread? Go on, I'll bite this time.

You talk about facial symmetry not mattering, and I'm willing to accept that on your word because I don't want to debate it whatsoever with you. Are you seriously suggesting though that guys who have worked out and made themselves a great looking body, are not at an advantage to a guy who is seriously out of shape with a beer gut?

Exhibit A: http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:7XLuedqo72I3wM:http://www.nutrex.com/images/Lipo6info_30.jpg&t=1

Exhibit B: http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/BigBellyREX_468x310.jpg

Two random pics from google. Are you seriously saying that women will not be more attracted to A than B? That getting laid should be equally easy for them both?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Tesl said:
Why am I not suprised you appeared in this thread? Go on, I'll bite this time.

You talk about facial symmetry not mattering, and I'm willing to accept that on your word because I don't want to debate it whatsoever with you. Are you seriously suggesting though that guys who have worked out and made themselves a great looking body, are not at an advantage to a guy who is seriously out of shape with a beer gut?

Exhibit A: http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:7XLuedqo72I3wM:http://www.nutrex.com/images/Lipo6info_30.jpg&t=1

Exhibit B: http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/BigBellyREX_468x310.jpg

Two random pics from google. Are you seriously saying that women will not be more attracted to A than B? That getting laid should be equally easy for them both?
Of course any woman will be more attracted to A. But you are using binary thinking. Firstly (to the OP) do you look like B? Do you look like A? Or are you more realistically somewhere in between? If you are somewhere in the average guy range, pretty flat belly, or a little pot with some muscle tone or at least not flabby, you're doing pretty good. You add style and game and its on.

Putting the expectation that you HAVE to have a six pack is just setting yourself up for failure. It's woman thinking. It's the reason they have plastic surgeons, for those with false expectation and massive insecurities. You can be in decent shape and pull a same night lay. I actually look more like B, and I've pulled same night lays just on the strength of good game, I probably could pull more if I had a six pack, but I won't let the quest for one rule my life.
 

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Tesl said:
Are you seriously suggesting though that guys who have worked out and made themselves a great looking body, are not at an advantage to a guy who is seriously out of shape with a beer gut?
Are you suggesting that you would buy a car with a CD player included over one that is not? Yeah, it's not going to make or break your decision. Same with abs. Yeah, it's nice to have (for some girls, a lot of girls would rather have a guy with a belly) but it's by no means a necessity. Fat guys bang chicks on the spot while a guy with a six-pack stands on the sidelines and helplessly watches all the time. Have you never been to a bar?
 

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hb said:
Would you rather **** a fat chick or a fit chick?
I assume that's directed at me since it's right after my post, but of course I'd rather bang a fit girl. I'm a guy, so I'm attracted to looks. Males are very visual creatures, which is why we like flashy cars, cool little electronic gizmos and can get sexually aroused from the mere sight of T&A.
 

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hb said:
Would you rather **** a fat chick or a fit chick?
Enough said..... look in the mirror and decided if you need to do some work on the bodywork.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Warrior74 said:
Of course any woman will be more attracted to A. But you are using binary thinking. Firstly (to the OP) do you look like B? Do you look like A? Or are you more realistically somewhere in between? If you are somewhere in the average guy range, pretty flat belly, or a little pot with some muscle tone or at least not flabby, you're doing pretty good. You add style and game and its on.

Putting the expectation that you HAVE to have a six pack is just setting yourself up for failure. It's woman thinking. It's the reason they have plastic surgeons, for those with false expectation and massive insecurities. You can be in decent shape and pull a same night lay. I actually look more like B, and I've pulled same night lays just on the strength of good game, I probably could pull more if I had a six pack, but I won't let the quest for one rule my life.
I agree with you 2000%. My post was directed at Just a shot away, who is a little bit ... special. Using exaggerated examples is best when speaking to him.

Just a Shot Away said:
Are you suggesting that you would buy a car with a CD player included over one that is not? Yeah, it's not going to make or break your decision. Same with abs. Yeah, it's nice to have (for some girls, a lot of girls would rather have a guy with a belly) but it's by no means a necessity. Fat guys bang chicks on the spot while a guy with a six-pack stands on the sidelines and helplessly watches all the time. Have you never been to a bar?
Okay, so you are agreeing that looks matter - you just don't think they matter all that much. Thats fine, sounds like we are more or less in agreement then, cheers!

Me said:
It helps, yes. But its not 100% necessary.
 

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Tesl said:
I agree with you 2000%. My post was directed at Just a shot away, who is a little bit ... special. Using exaggerated examples is best when speaking to him.
Ah. Sorry. Well carry on, enjoy ramming your head against brick walls then.
 

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First and foremost in importance are your:
-Enthusiasm
-Confidence
-Humor
-and Masculinity

I have muscles and a six pack to boot. 17 years old and I haven't gotten laid yet. It's not as important as you might think.
 

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Every time I show up at a college party I see a high number of guys that are only after the pusy and, yes, they are all fit and with personality to boot. Half of them are extremely athletic, it's a competition out there- a skinny guy has no business there, considering that you cant even have a normal conversation.

It's a pretty extreme case of course.

looking great/sexy = confidence= poonani
 

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of course being fit will help you but you dont need it. it depends on face more. skinny guy with good looking face will bang more chicks than fit guy with ugly face. but really theres no excuse for any man not to work out.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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