Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Do you LIKE women?

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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ARrocket said:
Don't you like sports?!?
There aren't any sports I like to watch on TV. Every now and then I play an active team sport. Since I'm not that big of a guy 5'6, I can't really compete on the really physical sports. Any sport I'd want to play, girls can also do. I don't bother with football, basketball, hockey, baseball etc. Basically anything that requires size and strength to succeed.

BTW I've also known guys that didn't know when to shut up. It's not a girl only thing. And not every girl keeps talking like an idiot.
 

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To be honest there are very few women I actually like. The only reason I hang with most girls is because I either want to get in their pants or I want to get in one of their friend's pants. I think I know about 6 girls that I actually like as people. Most women are worthless.
 

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Agreed with Scion,

Maxtro it's nice that you enjoy girls company, it must make dating and just hanging out with women much more fun. For me generally it's a bit of a chore and just a means to an end. Which is why when I am 'done' with them for the evening all I want is for them to disappear immediately. Pretty unhealthy maybe, but that's the way it is.
 

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I do rather enjoy the company of guys more than women...

Why I like male friends more:
- First off men don't constantly whine about their troubles...
------------>Yes i know there are women who don't do this, I just haven't met any who don't whine yet
- They don't have moodswings
- They don't ask for kiss on the cheek everytime you see them
----------> What if one of these women that I don't want to kiss has mouth herpes...
- There are more men then women with the same intrests as me
- My male friends motivate me more than my female friends (especially at drinking - all my exes were so demotivating on that part :p )

BUT!!!

What I do like about female friends:
- Sex... duh...
- I love beating women at games... The worst losers in games I've met so far have alwayse been women, ESPECIALLY my ex!
- Their pissed off reactions to some of my actions can be super funny... They are easy targets to piss off... Sometimes I like being a prick...
- Some of them can cook
- Some of them can clean, some even start to clean when they're bored!
- Some of them got hot female friends...
- Boobs

So women clearly do have a positive side aswell!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Personally, i find females easier to talk to, easier to express our feelings. when some guys hear this, they'll think we're gay or whatever. most guys i know play computer games; and rather spend the weekend playing games at home (alone) rather then go out for a hike, a movie or just chill out. girls are the total opposite.

imo, there are just somethings that girls are good at. perhaps what i'm saying is that they're more sensitive and such. of course, when going out i'll prefer a mixture of both!

Cheers!
 

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I do rather enjoy the company of guys more than women...

Why I like male friends more:
- First off men don't constantly whine about their troubles...
------------>Yes i know there are women who don't do this, I just haven't met any who don't whine yet
- They don't have moodswings
- They don't ask for kiss on the cheek everytime you see them
----------> What if one of these women that I don't want to kiss has mouth herpes...
- There are more men then women with the same intrests as me
- My male friends motivate me more than my female friends (especially at drinking - all my exes were so demotivating on that part )

BUT!!!

What I do like about female friends:
- Sex... duh...
- I love beating women at games... The worst losers in games I've met so far have alwayse been women, ESPECIALLY my ex!
- Their pissed off reactions to some of my actions can be super funny... They are easy targets to piss off... Sometimes I like being a prick...
- Some of them can cook
- Some of them can clean, some even start to clean when they're bored!
- Some of them got hot female friends...
- Boobs
- Their Ass
So women clearly do have a positive side aswell!
Very well said, couldn't agree more.. just had to add their ass ;)
 

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Sherlock-Holmes said:
Personally, i find females easier to talk to, easier to express our feelings. when some guys hear this, they'll think we're gay or whatever. most guys i know play computer games; and rather spend the weekend playing games at home (alone) rather then go out for a hike, a movie or just chill out. girls are the total opposite.

imo, there are just somethings that girls are good at. perhaps what i'm saying is that they're more sensitive and such. of course, when going out i'll prefer a mixture of both!

Cheers!
what kind of loser friends do you have that would rather sit at home alone playing video games (world of warcraft I assume) than go out and be social?
 

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Scion said:
what kind of loser friends do you have that would rather sit at home alone playing video games (world of warcraft I assume) than go out and be social?

Funny, yes guys (and some girls - 30% play videogames) stay at home and A LOT of girls will stay and watch movies but I don't know if I agree whether a girl is more likely or not to go hiking with you in the middle of the day

Doesn't it depend on the person?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Miles28 said:
What I mean is that we all (myself included) put a lot of time, thought and effort into women because we want to sleep with them. However if it wasn't for that I'm not sure if I'd even bother with girls at all. Compared to my male friends I have to say that the women I know are generally much less funny, less interesting, incapable of self deprecation, more prone to ramble on pointlessly, more superficial, more prone to melodrama etc, etc.
Yikes! I love women so much that I don't really even have any male friends. I don't like men too much, I find them very dull.

I think the majority of men here don't really like or understand women. I sense a great deal of fear and bitterness here. Any man who rails against "feminism" isn't, and will never be, a true player, IMHO.

And the women can tell, so no matter how much "game" they have, they never get anywhere.
 

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I enjoy the company of a woman more than a man. When I travel, I would like a woman to come along with me than a man for the following obvious reasons:

1. Sex.
2. Teasing and the whole physical affection you can do to her.
3. Dining out is way more fun with a woman than a man.

Do I LOVE women? No, because you need to keep your eyes open when dealing with them. The right woman can enhance your life. The wrong one can destroy you (while men don't give a **** about each other). However, I do believe that a woman is meant to be controlled by a man, if he knows how. So, theoretically speaking, any woman can be the right woman for you. It is why I am here is to keep learning how to do so.
 

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Zarky,

I don't mean this as an insult but are you sure you're not a friend of Dorothy?

And stop saying 'Yikes'.

M
 

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my god there are some very simplsitic views on women here...
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some quotes i found that express my opinion of this thread...

- " A person's words are a reflection of themselves . When someone is critizing you they are holding a mirror up to their own face."

- " Its obvious that these people are trying to place their own shortcomings on someone else."
 

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They may not be as witty, but they definitely are fun to be around.They are funny in a more feminine sense, they are submissive, they are cute... You gotta love em. Plus they get the blood pumping.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I like the company of a girlfriend, i like to flirt with girls for fun, i like to have chats with female friends.

But thats it. Bros for life.

Theres a reason why gays have many girlfriends. Maxtro how do you expect to be successful with women if you lack masculinity so much. Thats basic man, nothing to do with game.
 

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They give birth to our children and help raise them, to name a few more qualities.
 

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Good lord, what am I reading, raising kids? Having sex? What's next, not being lonely at 60?


The thread is not DO YOU EVER NOT WANT TO BE AROUND WOMEN


it is more like "Do you find that you would not prefer women to be around when you are doing things, unlike guy friends" - at least that's what I am getting out of it.

Look, I have female friends, and there is usually 2 days I call them - fri/sat. Because when i go out I want to have girls with me. They also call me those two days. They do not call me on Tuesday to go with them and get their hair done. I don't call them to play basketball (I've tried, it's only good for flirting, if she is your FRIEND what's the point?) I don't call them to go see a movie. My friends who have girlfriends do - because that's their "quality" time. Why would I take a girl to a movie if I don't want to sex her after?


remove SEX out of your monkey heads and think clearly, what is the reason for bringing a woman when there is a men, unless it is a social thing OR a maternal thing like you need her to take care of you while sick or give you a massage.


People are all individual, fine. There are plenty of women who can share experiences (though most suck at telling stories) but as you spend more time, the constant talking, the "LOOK AT ME" attitude, the fake self depreciation to get a compliment it will come out.

That's why you DO NOT take women seriously - you just glide. And I say gliding 24/7 hanging out with women is NOT SANE for any man. We need substance. We need male company.
 

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Amazing said:
Good lord, what am I reading, raising kids? Having sex? What's next, not being lonely at 60?


The thread is not DO YOU EVER NOT WANT TO BE AROUND WOMEN


it is more like "Do you find that you would not prefer women to be around when you are doing things, unlike guy friends" - at least that's what I am getting out of it.

Look, I have female friends, and there is usually 2 days I call them - fri/sat. Because when i go out I want to have girls with me. They also call me those two days. They do not call me on Tuesday to go with them and get their hair done. I don't call them to play basketball (I've tried, it's only good for flirting, if she is your FRIEND what's the point?) I don't call them to go see a movie. My friends who have girlfriends do - because that's their "quality" time. Why would I take a girl to a movie if I don't want to sex her after?


remove SEX out of your monkey heads and think clearly, what is the reason for bringing a woman when there is a men, unless it is a social thing OR a maternal thing like you need her to take care of you while sick or give you a massage.


People are all individual, fine. There are plenty of women who can share experiences (though most suck at telling stories) but as you spend more time, the constant talking, the "LOOK AT ME" attitude, the fake self depreciation to get a compliment it will come out.

That's why you DO NOT take women seriously - you just glide. And I say gliding 24/7 hanging out with women is NOT SANE for any man. We need substance. We need male company.
As your name suggests you've made the most amazing posts in this thread thus far. You get rep.
 

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I don't know of any men who are truly "successful" with women who would rather spend time with men than women.

Think Casanova would? Think Hefner would? Think Charlie Sheen or Tiger Woods or Warren Beatty or Frank Sinatra or any other notorious ladies-man would rather spend the night with dudes than with chicks?

Honestly, what man would rather spend time with men than with women? I don't understand. From the time I was in pre-school I played with girls to the exclusion of boys. At the end of each day when we were waiting for our parents to pick us up, the little girls would wave and shout "Bye, Zarky!" as I hopped into my mom's car. My parents still tease me about this.

Women love me (for the most part), and I love them. I don't have a problem with men, but I guess I don't understand... why would any man want to hang out with another man when he could hang out with a woman? Please enlighten me.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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