ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Don't you like sports?!?Maxtro said:
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Do you LIKE women?
- Thread starter Miles28
- Start date
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
There aren't any sports I like to watch on TV. Every now and then I play an active team sport. Since I'm not that big of a guy 5'6, I can't really compete on the really physical sports. Any sport I'd want to play, girls can also do. I don't bother with football, basketball, hockey, baseball etc. Basically anything that requires size and strength to succeed.ARrocket said:
BTW I've also known guys that didn't know when to shut up. It's not a girl only thing. And not every girl keeps talking like an idiot.
To be honest there are very few women I actually like. The only reason I hang with most girls is because I either want to get in their pants or I want to get in one of their friend's pants. I think I know about 6 girls that I actually like as people. Most women are worthless.
Agreed with Scion,
Maxtro it's nice that you enjoy girls company, it must make dating and just hanging out with women much more fun. For me generally it's a bit of a chore and just a means to an end. Which is why when I am 'done' with them for the evening all I want is for them to disappear immediately. Pretty unhealthy maybe, but that's the way it is.
Maxtro it's nice that you enjoy girls company, it must make dating and just hanging out with women much more fun. For me generally it's a bit of a chore and just a means to an end. Which is why when I am 'done' with them for the evening all I want is for them to disappear immediately. Pretty unhealthy maybe, but that's the way it is.
I do rather enjoy the company of guys more than women...
Why I like male friends more:
- First off men don't constantly whine about their troubles...
------------>Yes i know there are women who don't do this, I just haven't met any who don't whine yet
- They don't have moodswings
- They don't ask for kiss on the cheek everytime you see them
----------> What if one of these women that I don't want to kiss has mouth herpes...
- There are more men then women with the same intrests as me
- My male friends motivate me more than my female friends (especially at drinking - all my exes were so demotivating on that part
)
BUT!!!
What I do like about female friends:
- Sex... duh...
- I love beating women at games... The worst losers in games I've met so far have alwayse been women, ESPECIALLY my ex!
- Their pissed off reactions to some of my actions can be super funny... They are easy targets to piss off... Sometimes I like being a prick...
- Some of them can cook
- Some of them can clean, some even start to clean when they're bored!
- Some of them got hot female friends...
- Boobs
So women clearly do have a positive side aswell!
Why I like male friends more:
- First off men don't constantly whine about their troubles...
------------>Yes i know there are women who don't do this, I just haven't met any who don't whine yet
- They don't have moodswings
- They don't ask for kiss on the cheek everytime you see them
----------> What if one of these women that I don't want to kiss has mouth herpes...
- There are more men then women with the same intrests as me
- My male friends motivate me more than my female friends (especially at drinking - all my exes were so demotivating on that part
)BUT!!!
What I do like about female friends:
- Sex... duh...
- I love beating women at games... The worst losers in games I've met so far have alwayse been women, ESPECIALLY my ex!
- Their pissed off reactions to some of my actions can be super funny... They are easy targets to piss off... Sometimes I like being a prick...
- Some of them can cook
- Some of them can clean, some even start to clean when they're bored!
- Some of them got hot female friends...
- Boobs
So women clearly do have a positive side aswell!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Sherlock-Holmes
Don Juan
Personally, i find females easier to talk to, easier to express our feelings. when some guys hear this, they'll think we're gay or whatever. most guys i know play computer games; and rather spend the weekend playing games at home (alone) rather then go out for a hike, a movie or just chill out. girls are the total opposite.
imo, there are just somethings that girls are good at. perhaps what i'm saying is that they're more sensitive and such. of course, when going out i'll prefer a mixture of both!
Cheers!
imo, there are just somethings that girls are good at. perhaps what i'm saying is that they're more sensitive and such. of course, when going out i'll prefer a mixture of both!
Cheers!
Scion said:
Funny, yes guys (and some girls - 30% play videogames) stay at home and A LOT of girls will stay and watch movies but I don't know if I agree whether a girl is more likely or not to go hiking with you in the middle of the day
Doesn't it depend on the person?
DonGorgon
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physically yes ... mentally sometimes..
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Yikes! I love women so much that I don't really even have any male friends. I don't like men too much, I find them very dull.Miles28 said:
I think the majority of men here don't really like or understand women. I sense a great deal of fear and bitterness here. Any man who rails against "feminism" isn't, and will never be, a true player, IMHO.
And the women can tell, so no matter how much "game" they have, they never get anywhere.
sharkbeat
Master Don Juan
I enjoy the company of a woman more than a man. When I travel, I would like a woman to come along with me than a man for the following obvious reasons:
1. Sex.
2. Teasing and the whole physical affection you can do to her.
3. Dining out is way more fun with a woman than a man.
Do I LOVE women? No, because you need to keep your eyes open when dealing with them. The right woman can enhance your life. The wrong one can destroy you (while men don't give a **** about each other). However, I do believe that a woman is meant to be controlled by a man, if he knows how. So, theoretically speaking, any woman can be the right woman for you. It is why I am here is to keep learning how to do so.
1. Sex.
2. Teasing and the whole physical affection you can do to her.
3. Dining out is way more fun with a woman than a man.
Do I LOVE women? No, because you need to keep your eyes open when dealing with them. The right woman can enhance your life. The wrong one can destroy you (while men don't give a **** about each other). However, I do believe that a woman is meant to be controlled by a man, if he knows how. So, theoretically speaking, any woman can be the right woman for you. It is why I am here is to keep learning how to do so.
kingsam
Master Don Juan
my god there are some very simplsitic views on women here...
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some quotes i found that express my opinion of this thread...
- " A person's words are a reflection of themselves . When someone is critizing you they are holding a mirror up to their own face."
- " Its obvious that these people are trying to place their own shortcomings on someone else."
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some quotes i found that express my opinion of this thread...
- " A person's words are a reflection of themselves . When someone is critizing you they are holding a mirror up to their own face."
- " Its obvious that these people are trying to place their own shortcomings on someone else."
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I like the company of a girlfriend, i like to flirt with girls for fun, i like to have chats with female friends.
But thats it. Bros for life.
Theres a reason why gays have many girlfriends. Maxtro how do you expect to be successful with women if you lack masculinity so much. Thats basic man, nothing to do with game.
But thats it. Bros for life.
Theres a reason why gays have many girlfriends. Maxtro how do you expect to be successful with women if you lack masculinity so much. Thats basic man, nothing to do with game.
Good lord, what am I reading, raising kids? Having sex? What's next, not being lonely at 60?
The thread is not DO YOU EVER NOT WANT TO BE AROUND WOMEN
it is more like "Do you find that you would not prefer women to be around when you are doing things, unlike guy friends" - at least that's what I am getting out of it.
Look, I have female friends, and there is usually 2 days I call them - fri/sat. Because when i go out I want to have girls with me. They also call me those two days. They do not call me on Tuesday to go with them and get their hair done. I don't call them to play basketball (I've tried, it's only good for flirting, if she is your FRIEND what's the point?) I don't call them to go see a movie. My friends who have girlfriends do - because that's their "quality" time. Why would I take a girl to a movie if I don't want to sex her after?
remove SEX out of your monkey heads and think clearly, what is the reason for bringing a woman when there is a men, unless it is a social thing OR a maternal thing like you need her to take care of you while sick or give you a massage.
People are all individual, fine. There are plenty of women who can share experiences (though most suck at telling stories) but as you spend more time, the constant talking, the "LOOK AT ME" attitude, the fake self depreciation to get a compliment it will come out.
That's why you DO NOT take women seriously - you just glide. And I say gliding 24/7 hanging out with women is NOT SANE for any man. We need substance. We need male company.
The thread is not DO YOU EVER NOT WANT TO BE AROUND WOMEN
it is more like "Do you find that you would not prefer women to be around when you are doing things, unlike guy friends" - at least that's what I am getting out of it.
Look, I have female friends, and there is usually 2 days I call them - fri/sat. Because when i go out I want to have girls with me. They also call me those two days. They do not call me on Tuesday to go with them and get their hair done. I don't call them to play basketball (I've tried, it's only good for flirting, if she is your FRIEND what's the point?) I don't call them to go see a movie. My friends who have girlfriends do - because that's their "quality" time. Why would I take a girl to a movie if I don't want to sex her after?
remove SEX out of your monkey heads and think clearly, what is the reason for bringing a woman when there is a men, unless it is a social thing OR a maternal thing like you need her to take care of you while sick or give you a massage.
People are all individual, fine. There are plenty of women who can share experiences (though most suck at telling stories) but as you spend more time, the constant talking, the "LOOK AT ME" attitude, the fake self depreciation to get a compliment it will come out.
That's why you DO NOT take women seriously - you just glide. And I say gliding 24/7 hanging out with women is NOT SANE for any man. We need substance. We need male company.
I don't know of any men who are truly "successful" with women who would rather spend time with men than women.
Think Casanova would? Think Hefner would? Think Charlie Sheen or Tiger Woods or Warren Beatty or Frank Sinatra or any other notorious ladies-man would rather spend the night with dudes than with chicks?
Honestly, what man would rather spend time with men than with women? I don't understand. From the time I was in pre-school I played with girls to the exclusion of boys. At the end of each day when we were waiting for our parents to pick us up, the little girls would wave and shout "Bye, Zarky!" as I hopped into my mom's car. My parents still tease me about this.
Women love me (for the most part), and I love them. I don't have a problem with men, but I guess I don't understand... why would any man want to hang out with another man when he could hang out with a woman? Please enlighten me.
Think Casanova would? Think Hefner would? Think Charlie Sheen or Tiger Woods or Warren Beatty or Frank Sinatra or any other notorious ladies-man would rather spend the night with dudes than with chicks?
Honestly, what man would rather spend time with men than with women? I don't understand. From the time I was in pre-school I played with girls to the exclusion of boys. At the end of each day when we were waiting for our parents to pick us up, the little girls would wave and shout "Bye, Zarky!" as I hopped into my mom's car. My parents still tease me about this.
Women love me (for the most part), and I love them. I don't have a problem with men, but I guess I don't understand... why would any man want to hang out with another man when he could hang out with a woman? Please enlighten me.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.