ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Don't you like sports?!?Maxtro said:
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Do you LIKE women?
- Thread starter Miles28
- Start date
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
There aren't any sports I like to watch on TV. Every now and then I play an active team sport. Since I'm not that big of a guy 5'6, I can't really compete on the really physical sports. Any sport I'd want to play, girls can also do. I don't bother with football, basketball, hockey, baseball etc. Basically anything that requires size and strength to succeed.ARrocket said:
BTW I've also known guys that didn't know when to shut up. It's not a girl only thing. And not every girl keeps talking like an idiot.
To be honest there are very few women I actually like. The only reason I hang with most girls is because I either want to get in their pants or I want to get in one of their friend's pants. I think I know about 6 girls that I actually like as people. Most women are worthless.
Agreed with Scion,
Maxtro it's nice that you enjoy girls company, it must make dating and just hanging out with women much more fun. For me generally it's a bit of a chore and just a means to an end. Which is why when I am 'done' with them for the evening all I want is for them to disappear immediately. Pretty unhealthy maybe, but that's the way it is.
Maxtro it's nice that you enjoy girls company, it must make dating and just hanging out with women much more fun. For me generally it's a bit of a chore and just a means to an end. Which is why when I am 'done' with them for the evening all I want is for them to disappear immediately. Pretty unhealthy maybe, but that's the way it is.
I do rather enjoy the company of guys more than women...
Why I like male friends more:
- First off men don't constantly whine about their troubles...
------------>Yes i know there are women who don't do this, I just haven't met any who don't whine yet
- They don't have moodswings
- They don't ask for kiss on the cheek everytime you see them
----------> What if one of these women that I don't want to kiss has mouth herpes...
- There are more men then women with the same intrests as me
- My male friends motivate me more than my female friends (especially at drinking - all my exes were so demotivating on that part
)
BUT!!!
What I do like about female friends:
- Sex... duh...
- I love beating women at games... The worst losers in games I've met so far have alwayse been women, ESPECIALLY my ex!
- Their pissed off reactions to some of my actions can be super funny... They are easy targets to piss off... Sometimes I like being a prick...
- Some of them can cook
- Some of them can clean, some even start to clean when they're bored!
- Some of them got hot female friends...
- Boobs
So women clearly do have a positive side aswell!
Why I like male friends more:
- First off men don't constantly whine about their troubles...
------------>Yes i know there are women who don't do this, I just haven't met any who don't whine yet
- They don't have moodswings
- They don't ask for kiss on the cheek everytime you see them
----------> What if one of these women that I don't want to kiss has mouth herpes...
- There are more men then women with the same intrests as me
- My male friends motivate me more than my female friends (especially at drinking - all my exes were so demotivating on that part
)BUT!!!
What I do like about female friends:
- Sex... duh...
- I love beating women at games... The worst losers in games I've met so far have alwayse been women, ESPECIALLY my ex!
- Their pissed off reactions to some of my actions can be super funny... They are easy targets to piss off... Sometimes I like being a prick...
- Some of them can cook
- Some of them can clean, some even start to clean when they're bored!
- Some of them got hot female friends...
- Boobs
So women clearly do have a positive side aswell!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Sherlock-Holmes
Don Juan
Personally, i find females easier to talk to, easier to express our feelings. when some guys hear this, they'll think we're gay or whatever. most guys i know play computer games; and rather spend the weekend playing games at home (alone) rather then go out for a hike, a movie or just chill out. girls are the total opposite.
imo, there are just somethings that girls are good at. perhaps what i'm saying is that they're more sensitive and such. of course, when going out i'll prefer a mixture of both!
Cheers!
imo, there are just somethings that girls are good at. perhaps what i'm saying is that they're more sensitive and such. of course, when going out i'll prefer a mixture of both!
Cheers!
Scion said:
Funny, yes guys (and some girls - 30% play videogames) stay at home and A LOT of girls will stay and watch movies but I don't know if I agree whether a girl is more likely or not to go hiking with you in the middle of the day
Doesn't it depend on the person?
DonGorgon
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physically yes ... mentally sometimes..
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Yikes! I love women so much that I don't really even have any male friends. I don't like men too much, I find them very dull.Miles28 said:
I think the majority of men here don't really like or understand women. I sense a great deal of fear and bitterness here. Any man who rails against "feminism" isn't, and will never be, a true player, IMHO.
And the women can tell, so no matter how much "game" they have, they never get anywhere.
sharkbeat
Master Don Juan
I enjoy the company of a woman more than a man. When I travel, I would like a woman to come along with me than a man for the following obvious reasons:
1. Sex.
2. Teasing and the whole physical affection you can do to her.
3. Dining out is way more fun with a woman than a man.
Do I LOVE women? No, because you need to keep your eyes open when dealing with them. The right woman can enhance your life. The wrong one can destroy you (while men don't give a **** about each other). However, I do believe that a woman is meant to be controlled by a man, if he knows how. So, theoretically speaking, any woman can be the right woman for you. It is why I am here is to keep learning how to do so.
1. Sex.
2. Teasing and the whole physical affection you can do to her.
3. Dining out is way more fun with a woman than a man.
Do I LOVE women? No, because you need to keep your eyes open when dealing with them. The right woman can enhance your life. The wrong one can destroy you (while men don't give a **** about each other). However, I do believe that a woman is meant to be controlled by a man, if he knows how. So, theoretically speaking, any woman can be the right woman for you. It is why I am here is to keep learning how to do so.
kingsam
Master Don Juan
my god there are some very simplsitic views on women here...
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some quotes i found that express my opinion of this thread...
- " A person's words are a reflection of themselves . When someone is critizing you they are holding a mirror up to their own face."
- " Its obvious that these people are trying to place their own shortcomings on someone else."
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some quotes i found that express my opinion of this thread...
- " A person's words are a reflection of themselves . When someone is critizing you they are holding a mirror up to their own face."
- " Its obvious that these people are trying to place their own shortcomings on someone else."
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I like the company of a girlfriend, i like to flirt with girls for fun, i like to have chats with female friends.
But thats it. Bros for life.
Theres a reason why gays have many girlfriends. Maxtro how do you expect to be successful with women if you lack masculinity so much. Thats basic man, nothing to do with game.
But thats it. Bros for life.
Theres a reason why gays have many girlfriends. Maxtro how do you expect to be successful with women if you lack masculinity so much. Thats basic man, nothing to do with game.
Good lord, what am I reading, raising kids? Having sex? What's next, not being lonely at 60?
The thread is not DO YOU EVER NOT WANT TO BE AROUND WOMEN
it is more like "Do you find that you would not prefer women to be around when you are doing things, unlike guy friends" - at least that's what I am getting out of it.
Look, I have female friends, and there is usually 2 days I call them - fri/sat. Because when i go out I want to have girls with me. They also call me those two days. They do not call me on Tuesday to go with them and get their hair done. I don't call them to play basketball (I've tried, it's only good for flirting, if she is your FRIEND what's the point?) I don't call them to go see a movie. My friends who have girlfriends do - because that's their "quality" time. Why would I take a girl to a movie if I don't want to sex her after?
remove SEX out of your monkey heads and think clearly, what is the reason for bringing a woman when there is a men, unless it is a social thing OR a maternal thing like you need her to take care of you while sick or give you a massage.
People are all individual, fine. There are plenty of women who can share experiences (though most suck at telling stories) but as you spend more time, the constant talking, the "LOOK AT ME" attitude, the fake self depreciation to get a compliment it will come out.
That's why you DO NOT take women seriously - you just glide. And I say gliding 24/7 hanging out with women is NOT SANE for any man. We need substance. We need male company.
The thread is not DO YOU EVER NOT WANT TO BE AROUND WOMEN
it is more like "Do you find that you would not prefer women to be around when you are doing things, unlike guy friends" - at least that's what I am getting out of it.
Look, I have female friends, and there is usually 2 days I call them - fri/sat. Because when i go out I want to have girls with me. They also call me those two days. They do not call me on Tuesday to go with them and get their hair done. I don't call them to play basketball (I've tried, it's only good for flirting, if she is your FRIEND what's the point?) I don't call them to go see a movie. My friends who have girlfriends do - because that's their "quality" time. Why would I take a girl to a movie if I don't want to sex her after?
remove SEX out of your monkey heads and think clearly, what is the reason for bringing a woman when there is a men, unless it is a social thing OR a maternal thing like you need her to take care of you while sick or give you a massage.
People are all individual, fine. There are plenty of women who can share experiences (though most suck at telling stories) but as you spend more time, the constant talking, the "LOOK AT ME" attitude, the fake self depreciation to get a compliment it will come out.
That's why you DO NOT take women seriously - you just glide. And I say gliding 24/7 hanging out with women is NOT SANE for any man. We need substance. We need male company.
I don't know of any men who are truly "successful" with women who would rather spend time with men than women.
Think Casanova would? Think Hefner would? Think Charlie Sheen or Tiger Woods or Warren Beatty or Frank Sinatra or any other notorious ladies-man would rather spend the night with dudes than with chicks?
Honestly, what man would rather spend time with men than with women? I don't understand. From the time I was in pre-school I played with girls to the exclusion of boys. At the end of each day when we were waiting for our parents to pick us up, the little girls would wave and shout "Bye, Zarky!" as I hopped into my mom's car. My parents still tease me about this.
Women love me (for the most part), and I love them. I don't have a problem with men, but I guess I don't understand... why would any man want to hang out with another man when he could hang out with a woman? Please enlighten me.
Think Casanova would? Think Hefner would? Think Charlie Sheen or Tiger Woods or Warren Beatty or Frank Sinatra or any other notorious ladies-man would rather spend the night with dudes than with chicks?
Honestly, what man would rather spend time with men than with women? I don't understand. From the time I was in pre-school I played with girls to the exclusion of boys. At the end of each day when we were waiting for our parents to pick us up, the little girls would wave and shout "Bye, Zarky!" as I hopped into my mom's car. My parents still tease me about this.
Women love me (for the most part), and I love them. I don't have a problem with men, but I guess I don't understand... why would any man want to hang out with another man when he could hang out with a woman? Please enlighten me.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.