“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Do you guys think a 40 year old can get with a woman in her 20s?

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Explain your "alpha bucks" strategies.
Alpha bucks don't really need no strategies same as beta bucks ..... money will solve just about an SMV issue when used correctly then all you really need to do is not be over weight or hideous

I am intending on working in influencer and content marketing for the next 20 years so i am fully intending on constantly working with young chicks who want to "make it" the rest is pretty self explanatory

the main difference being alpha bucks wont emotionally commit to a woman , driving them crazy in the process

Women are just play toy's to me they come and go , it would take an absolutely incredible one to change that perception
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Alpha bucks don't really need no strategies same as beta bucks ..... money will solve just about an SMV issue when used correctly then all you really need to do is not be over weight or hideous

I am intending on working in influencer and content marketing for the next 20 years so i am fully intending on constantly working with young chicks who want to "make it" the rest is pretty self explanatory

the main difference being alpha bucks wont emotionally commit to a woman , driving them crazy in the process

Women are just play toy's to me they come and go , it would take an absolutely incredible one to change that perception
I think their should be a new "alpha fvcks" section of this forum. If "red pill" = reality. Then, that's reality lol.

Just make you sure learn from the mistakes of others (Harvey Weinstein, etc.). Don't cross that line lol
 

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I think a 40 year old man is more fit to get a 20 year old woman than a 20 year old man, as long as the 40 year old isn't broke from divorce n ****, but yeah he's way more established, better financially which is important, especially for a woman who is on social media and trying to show all her friends her value through material ****.
 

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I think a 40 year old man is more fit to get a 20 year old woman than a 20 year old man, as long as the 40 year old isn't broke from divorce n ****, but yeah he's way more established, better financially which is important, especially for a woman who is on social media and trying to show all her friends her value through material ****.
As long as he's not fat.

But who wants to be a sugar daddy? That's stupid.
 

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As long as he's not fat.

But who wants to be a sugar daddy? That's stupid.
Hey man, when you've been banging all the loose women your own age, I imagine the change up is good, but with that being said, giving up your provisions as a man will always put you into a worse position, dipping past that disposable income threshold is a mistake.

I don't sugar daddy so I can only speak from situations I've witnessed myself.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I'm 41 and was pulling 20 yo girls up to 35. After 2 year LTR, 4 years out I've been on maybe 6 dates no ***** at all.
 

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It's possible but difficult. It's not going to be realistic for a lot of 40 year old men. It's easier for an early 40s to get a 26-29 year than a 20-25 year old but even this is a big ask. Most men who are 40-44 don't have enough going for them to attract a 20 something, even a late 20s woman.

It would also depend upon how the 40 year old man looks for 20 something women. If he's relying upon Tinder, Hinge, or Bumble, then he won't be able to do it. Guys are fortunate to get the attention of women 1-4 years younger on apps. Women have extraordinary amounts of choices on apps, so the collective power of women on apps means a 40 year old man will often be settling for a 37-38 year old woman. An in-shape 40 year old might get an in-shape 37-38 year old on an app. The major swipe apps make it difficult to get a big age differences. Similar dynamics exist if you're trying to get vag by sending DMs on Instagram, Facebook, or LinkedIn. The newest thing is "shooting your shot" on Clubhouse, which might be the most inane thing of them all because unlike Insta, Facebook, or LinkedIn, you are not likely to be dealing with a woman in your same geographical area.

You'll need to present well in person as a 40 year old to get 20 somethings because you're most likely doing it through cold approach. With the pandemic tremendously impacting night game, you're going to have to do it through day game, which is tough. Most men don't have the stones to do day game. Day game is tough because you are approaching in random places while sober. Most 40 year old men don't have a social circle capable of introducing them to 20 something women either.

To be 40 years old and get 20 somethings, you will either have to have exceptional looks, exceptional charisma, or a solid income/net worth AND likely be sourcing her in-person.
I regularly match with 20 something yo girls but on dating apps. I'm 6'6" and pretty decent looking and am a scientist. I won't date older than 30. I do feel like older than 32 and single tends to be damaged goods for the most part. I could be going out with girls 5 years younger but i smell damaged goods so fast.
 

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Do you think a 40 year old guy can pull a girl in her 20s without paying for it? I hear alot of guys in there 40s saying they can pull women in there 20s but I find it hard to believe.
For 95% of dudes absolutely not. Look around. Most dudes in their 40s are fat wasted and broke as a joke and don’t have their **** together. However for the 5% that are pushing you can bet your ass all the 20 year olds are going to them.
 

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Slightly off topic, but was reading reddit earlier and it struck me how deluded they are in comparison to here when it comes to older guys and younger girls

It seems we understand that these young girls have the highest SMV and are the most picky in many ways - I mean look at the title of this thread.

But if you go on reddit and there's topic about older guys with young girls, it's always like ''He can't get girls his own age because he's broke and ugly, so he goes for little 18-21 year olds!!''

Or it's ''He goes for young girls because they are so easy to 'manipulate' and get into bed'' etc - Implying that any fat broke 40 year old could be banging these hot 18 year old onlyfans girls if only he wanted too, simply because of his age!! lol. The whole 'manipulate' thing is beyond delusion. Unless we're talking about 11 year old girls, ain't nobody gonna be able to use some sort of magic verbals to 'manipulate' these girls into wanting to sleep with them as they imply. There wouldn't be millions of adult incels. Hell, guys like Harvey Weinstein and jeffery Epstein certainly wouldn't have needed to resort to blackmail and flat out rape if that was the case!

It's so funny
 
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Slightly off topic, but was reading reddit earlier and it struck me how deluded they are in comparison to here when it comes to older guys and younger girls

It seems we understand that these young girls have the highest SMV and are the most picky in many ways - I mean look at the title of this thread.

But if you go on reddit and there's topic about older guys with young girls, it's always like ''He can't get girls his own age because he's broke and ugly, so he goes for little 18-21 year olds!!''

Or it's ''He goes for young girls because they are so easy to 'manipulate' and get into bed'' etc - Implying that any fat broke 40 year old could be banging these hot 18 year old onlyfans girls if only he wanted too, simply because of his age!! lol. The whole 'manipulate' thing is beyond delusion. Unless we're talking about 11 year old girls, ain't nobody gonna be able to use some sort of magic verbals to 'manipulate' these girls into wanting to sleep with them as they imply. There wouldn't be millions of adult incels. Hell, guys like Harvey Weinstein and jeffery Epstein certainly wouldn't have needed to resort to blackmail and flat out rape if that was the case!

It's so funny
Exactly, it ain't a cakewalk for the "older" guy. The guy can even be a physically dominant specimen that's hot. Females are coached to "use" and older guy. So it almost doesn't even matter WHO you are, it's just not going to be as good a deal. With all this coaching to "use" the older man, he's usually the one being manipulated.
 

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Do you think a 40 year old guy can pull a girl in her 20s without paying for it? I hear alot of guys in there 40s saying they can pull women in there 20s but I find it hard to believe.
For 95% of dudes absolutely not. Look around. Most dudes in their 40s are fat wasted and broke as a joke and don’t have their **** together. However for the 5% that are pushing you can bet your ass all the 20 year olds are going to them.
I do feel like older than 32 and single tends to be damaged goods for the most part. I could be going out with girls 5 years younger but i smell damaged goods so fast.
I agree that the majority of 40-44 year old men are not going to be able to get sex and relationships from 20 something women. Most guys 40-44 will be diving through damaged goods women in the mid-30s and older and picking the least damaged one they can find.

Exactly, it ain't a cakewalk for the "older" guy. The guy can even be a physically dominant specimen that's hot. Females are coached to "use" and older guy. So it almost doesn't even matter WHO you are, it's just not going to be as good a deal. With all this coaching to "use" the older man, he's usually the one being manipulated.
Even an in-shape 40-44 year old man will not have it easy. He needs to be in-shape, have a great job, have solid possessions, and then he's got a fighting chance. Childless helps too. Most men 40-44 don't have what it takes to get with a much younger woman.
 

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I agree a guy in his early 40s will struggle to get a woman in her 20's; despite if he's in shape, good job, etc.

However, I think an early 30s gal is definitely attainable. At 44, I'd be very content with a 32 year old!
This is reasonable.

A 32 year old can be considered a solid get for a 44 year old man. The kids issue might be a challenging one to navigate. A 32 year old woman is more inclined to want kids than a 44 year old man. A man having kids between 46-50 will impact his ability to retire.
 
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I agree that the majority of 40-44 year old men are not going to be able to get sex and relationships from 20 something women. Most guys 40-44 will be diving through damaged goods women in the mid-30s and older and picking the least damaged one they can find.



Even an in-shape 40-44 year old man will not have it easy. He needs to be in-shape, have a great job, have solid possessions, and then he's got a fighting chance. Childless helps too. Most men 40-44 don't have what it takes to get with a much younger woman.
Your quote about most guys 40-44 getting a damaged woman in the mid 30s and older couldnt be more spot on. That is the real reality for guys in that age range. I dont care how much a guy works out. His face is still gonna be old.
 

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Your quote about most guys 40-44 getting a damaged woman in the mid 30s and older couldnt be more spot on. That is the real reality for guys in that age range. I dont care how much a guy works out. His face is still gonna be old.
Well, he can look younger at 40-44 with some facial plastic surgery and/or if he had a good skincare regimen in his teens, 20s, and 30s. Even with all that, it's still an uphill battle.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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I agree that the majority of 40-44 year old men are not going to be able to get sex and relationships from 20 something women. Most guys 40-44 will be diving through damaged goods women in the mid-30s and older and picking the least damaged one they can find.



Even an in-shape 40-44 year old man will not have it easy. He needs to be in-shape, have a great job, have solid possessions, and then he's got a fighting chance. Childless helps too. Most men 40-44 don't have what it takes to get with a much younger woman.
My hats off to a few guys on this site who i have met in person who can get this job done. It's not a big deal for them, because they are setup correctly. Actually most younger women would be a nuicance for them!
 

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I agree a guy in his early 40s will struggle to get a woman in her 20's; despite if he's in shape, good job, etc.

However, I think an early 30s gal is definitely attainable. At 44, I'd be very content with a 32 year old!
If he has all that and is good on the social and/or party scene he won't have any issues. That social validation is huge.
 

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I agree that the majority of 40-44 year old men are not going to be able to get sex and relationships from 20 something women. Most guys 40-44 will be diving through damaged goods women in the mid-30s and older and picking the least damaged one they can find.



Even an in-shape 40-44 year old man will not have it easy. He needs to be in-shape, have a great job, have solid possessions, and then he's got a fighting chance. Childless helps too. Most men 40-44 don't have what it takes to get with a much younger woman.
Unfortunately. One of my mates pulls girls in their 20s. Granted mid or late twenties. He's doing OK. no baller. I think to pull a stunner at early twenty while 40+ he would need to flex REAL HARDDDDD. blue check ig or milli or something else going. Everything atm is early twenty something or older. All under 30. I'm convinced that it's a dumpster fire above and eggs are rotten which isn't making my D hard.
Your quote about most guys 40-44 getting a damaged woman in the mid 30s and older couldnt be more spot on. That is the real reality for guys in that age range. I dont care how much a guy works out. His face is still gonna be old.
i dont disagree which is why fire power has to come in the form of lifestyle, status, money, something etc. Must have game to avoid the con Job. Are we talking western world or globally? I think the caliber and ROI is better elsewhere. Marrying a ***** who lost count of her kills and abortions is a recipe for disaster or another word for marriage in the west. Better alternatives likely in South America, Asia, eastern Europe. Unfortunately it's going to rubbish everywhere.
 

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I was advised to go (from a blackpill dating expert) to South East Asia or a foreign country and use JBW to get yonge girls if I lose weight. Youthmaxxing would include facelifts, hair transplant and removing wrinkles. The blackpill guy says if I would end up betabuxxing if I go yonger than 35. Interesting feedback.
 

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First of all this thread should be renamed

it should include “America” in the title because that’s what the OP is really asking. He’s asking if 40 year olds can pull 20 year olds in America.

people forget that the world is a huge place and it’s not just one country. Outside of America it’s no issue for women to date older men. It’s only in America where feminism has made it look bad.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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