"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Do you give a second chance?

dk1990S111

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Just wondering what everyones opinion on giving a girl a second chance is. Say you were going out with a girl, she gets in a relationship and you guys stop talking then a month or two later she starts hitting you up again after that guy is done with her lol basically making it clear you are just a backup to her.

Guessing she can never be anything more than a plate after that?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Plate.....plain and simple.

Let her know up front that if she wants to hook up, that is fine. But you're not interested in more than that right now.

Since you are even questioning if this is a good idea with this chick, you already think that you may become emotionally invested in her if you just fvck her. If thats the case, go find more chicks and let this thing continue to die out.
 

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Depends on what the situation is. Whats the issue with keeping her as a fvck buddy? It's not like you are asking her to marry you.
 

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Just wondering what everyones opinion on giving a girl a second chance is. Say you were going out with a girl, she gets in a relationship and you guys stop talking then a month or two later she starts hitting you up again after that guy is done with her lol basically making it clear you are just a backup to her.

Guessing she can never be anything more than a plate after that?
When you admitted you were her back up plan, if you have any pride self esteem or are not beta, that should have answered your question.

Never be anyone's plan b.
One chance per lifetime. If she blows it she is out. This one blew it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Because it teaches the women to not respect you. If you give them second or third chances you are telling them that you are beta. You are giving them the green light to cheat on you and then dump you and it puts in their mind they can treat you anyway they want.
 

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Because it teaches the women to not respect you. If you give them second or third chances you are telling them that you are beta. You are giving them the green light to cheat on you and then dump you and it puts in their mind they can treat you anyway they want.
Here we go with the beta/alpha blah blah blah talk again.

Here's the thing. Most of that is irrelevant in the real world. Again, it's a chance to set up an easy fvck buddy and not invest much in it, why wouldn't you take it? He isn't trying to fall in love with her and live happily ever after. Punish her for making a bad decision and fvck the life out of her.
 

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Here we go with the beta/alpha blah blah blah talk again.

Here's the thing. Most of that is irrelevant in the real world. Again, it's a chance to set up an easy fvck buddy and not invest much in it, why wouldn't you take it? He isn't trying to fall in love with her and live happily ever after. Punish her for making a bad decision and fvck the life out of her.
Proud of this statement you made. Very alpha of you. Even if you don't like the alpha beta talk.
 

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Here we go with the beta/alpha blah blah blah talk again.

Here's the thing. Most of that is irrelevant in the real world. Again, it's a chance to set up an easy fvck buddy and not invest much in it, why wouldn't you take it? He isn't trying to fall in love with her and live happily ever after. Punish her for making a bad decision and fvck the life out of her.
wow, theres something we agree on. you arent as bad as I thought.
 

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Just wondering what everyones opinion on giving a girl a second chance is. Say you were going out with a girl, she gets in a relationship and you guys stop talking then a month or two later she starts hitting you up again after that guy is done with her lol basically making it clear you are just a backup to her.

Guessing she can never be anything more than a plate after that?

pump and dump, if you gave her a chance she she blew that up, her loss, too many woman around to care for her sorry kicked but, I would be thinking on more she want to just feel better and nothing else, but to be real in some cases not even pump and dump I would do, pretty much I would hate her guts
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Plan B is a pill she should have in her purse at all times. You are not a pill. You are a man. Walk like a man, to quote Franki Valli :)
 

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Depends. How many dates had you had and how readily she agreed to a date. Women are emotionally driven and if you only had a few dates it's nothing to take personally that she chose some other guy she may have went out with a dozen times already.

If she was fun and engaging and receptive to your advances on the dates you did have then there's no reason to assume you were a backup. She's simply exercising her singleness to not act exclusive until they really are exclusive. On the otherhand, if she was reluctant to schedule dates the first time you asked, and was less than enthusiastic during your dates, then yeah, you're a backup. But honestly, that kind of behavior should be unacceptable regardless of who else she is or isn't dating.
 

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Yes, absolutely!!! None of us is perfect and we need to factor that in all of our dealings,
situationally depending.
 

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Depends on the situation.

The chest beaters will disagree cos they are special
 

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Was more asking as a general question to see what was the more common action. Although I was thinking about it because of dealing with a particular girl and was trying to decide if I would give her a second chance to even talk to me lol or if I'd just ignore her. Good way to look at it though, fvcking her as punishment Marmel.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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only if she begs. in which case i'll probably give a second chance
 

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I will never be a woman's plan B relationship, but I can always use another fvck buddy.
 

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People make mistakes. We all do.

We've all been there and have made our choices whether to give these women a second chance. Here's what I learned.

This is what I’ve learned in all these years on this earth. If somebody wants to walk out of your life, Let. Them. Go.

Especially if you know you’ve done everything you can do. If you’ve sat around and been the best man or the best woman you can be and they still want to go, let them go. Whatever they’re running after, they’ll see what they had in a minute, but by then it’s gonna be too late.

If you are her Plan B, Machiavellian alike would tell you to reverse the role.. if you're looking for a LTR with this women.
If you are her Plan B, and she realized she made a mistake (GIGS) you MUST put on a STRONG FRAME on her. She must always invest in you from now on and you must always lead her.

Second chances are tough, it can be debated that it is a bad idea but if you developed yourself to becoming a better man and used the knowledge and time you spent on working on yourself. She will notice that and she will never let you go but it's hard to do this because some men go back to their old ways and this will just kill the attraction for good. This is only if you seek relationships.
 

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Sure... why not? Who cares? If she comes back and wants to sleep with you, why would you say no? Just don't be an idiot and let her lock you down exclusively.
 

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Screw her, have fun. you weren't in a relationship. Quit trying to teach her a lesson and f uck her already. She can be a ms right now.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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