"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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do you give a girl your number if she gives you hers?

chance

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just wondering what you guys do? usually i play it like this:

just recently it went this way, don't ask why we spoke like this (long story) but it was joking around:

me: if we gonna be agents we need to exchange numbers.

her: haha yes yes, <number> is moi

me: awesome, i'm <number>

me: now we can communicate on the field.

her: haha yes, one step closer :p



we actually spoke online and she msg me telling me she was moving to the state i'm in, in a few weeks. so i suggest we hang out together when she does and she said sure!

anyway, was i meant to just get her number? or do you guys think that's fine?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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horaholic

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You are obviously overthinking this stuff in a HUGE way. Why the hell WOULDN'T you give her your number? Are you against her possibly calling you asking you to hang out or something?
 

DJ Miquelo

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If u believe her to be of sufficient quality to warrent you giving her your number then do so! otherwise... i tend to not!

eg. i pretty much never give my number to a girl at a club... lol
 

War Against Betaism

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horaholic said:
You are obviously overthinking this stuff in a HUGE way. Why the hell WOULDN'T you give her your number? Are you against her possibly calling you asking you to hang out or something?
Exactly what I'm thinking. You're already stressing over things THIS early in the stage.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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KnockoutJM

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Personally I don't tend to give out my number if i'm getting a girl's just so they can't really screen the first call basically from club/bar situations.

However I have to give you mad props on your agent line and feel that using a witty line like that definitely warrants it
 
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