Zippapants
Don Juan
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I don't despise women for being women. It's like getting mad at a dog for being a dog. Rather, I've grateful for my understanding of how things work.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Yep, I'm more mad at the guys who keep letting them get away with this sh!t and encouraging their behavior.ebracer05 said:I don't despise women. But If I'm going to get on anyone's case it would be the men.
Would attention wh*res exist if all of the beta guys out there weren't constantly feeding them attention?
Would the princesses exist if there were not scores of men affirming her identity?
If men respected themselves enough to expect respect from others, including women, would there be flakes, b*tches, a high population of fat chicks (or the corollary, women who have nothing going for them except their appearance), or the friend zone?
If men never abdicated their position in society as men, do you think the "typical" woman's behavior would be acceptable right now? The reason women are the way they are is because men allow them to be.
You can get mad at women for acting like they do, but it's ultimately in reaction to men. If you want to have a problem with someone, make friends with a beta who's contributing to the problems you read about regarding women.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Great post!!! Every guy here needs to read this!Iceberg said:I don't think it's as bad as the people in here make it sound. Don't get me wrong, there is game-playing, etc. And some of them think their puzzies are made of gold. But there are plenty of normal people in the world.
You gotta realize that the reason you're angry is because you're listening to angry men. The guys who are happy, and have a healthy "you win some/you lose some" attitude towards dating are not here. Well, some are. But there's a lot of anger here.
I realized that myself - which is why I'm slowly spending less and less time here. The guys here are great. But man, I have friends who are successful with women. And they are NOT this angry. They don't despise women. They're aware of women's games, but they dont care. It's just a part of life.
You date a few girls. Most don't work out. Some do. Then, eventually those don't work out either. And that's life.
As much as I see a sense of entitlement from women, I see a sense of entitlement from men here. As if the world is supposed to fall to your feet just because you get out of bed in the morning. Not you specifically. But in general here.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Great post by Iceberg, that says about all you need to know.Iceberg said:I don't think it's as bad as the people in here make it sound. Don't get me wrong, there is game-playing, etc. And some of them think their puzzies are made of gold. But there are plenty of normal people in the world.
You gotta realize that the reason you're angry is because you're listening to angry men. The guys who are happy, and have a healthy "you win some/you lose some" attitude towards dating are not here. Well, some are. But there's a lot of anger here.
I realized that myself - which is why I'm slowly spending less and less time here. The guys here are great. But man, I have friends who are successful with women. And they are NOT this angry. They don't despise women. They're aware of women's games, but they dont care. It's just a part of life.
You date a few girls. Most don't work out. Some do. Then, eventually those don't work out either. And that's life.
As much as I see a sense of entitlement from women, I see a sense of entitlement from men here. As if the world is supposed to fall to your feet just because you get out of bed in the morning. Not you specifically. But in general here.
There are some guys who don't get sh!t on by women, for whatever reason. I've known a few.cola said:I love women. They have always been good to me.
I don't have a horror story .. Maybe I'm lucky, but I usually find chill down to earth girls.
Tictac said:If you ascribe to womens' behavior anything more that amusement, you really are taking this too seriously.
Really amusement? :trouble:Tictac said:If you ascribe to womens' behavior anything more that amusement, you really are taking this too seriously.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
----Burroughs said:guy has to sign a waiver that he might be raped in jail because of a greedy ex-wife and he should be amused?....men need to start getting their heads out of their azzes and see what the fvck is going on.
wow :crackup:Tictac said:----
You are confusing the legal system with what goes on in womens' heads.
I've not been jailed (yet) by my ex. But if that happens, its the courts that will do it.
Yeah, pretty much. They are the less honorable of the sexes no doubt. But we let them get away with it and even encourage it so who should we really be mad at here?JohnChops said:Ever since I started on this forum and reading everything on here, it has made me kind of "hate" women in the sense that I would never let one tie me down because of how terrible I think they are. Like all the games they play, how they think there pvssies are made of gold, and more. Anyone else ever find themselves thinking this way about women?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.