"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do you actually enjoy women's company, or just in it for the sex?

Scormus

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Seems I am in that camp now. Acting my way through dates, I only need them for what's between their legs.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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That's a shame. Women are fascinating (sometimes exasperating) if you don't take what they say seriously.

I have a rule or two. I never go out with a woman I'm not interested in on several levels including sexually. And I never do anything with them that I wouldn't enjoy doing either by myself or with friends.

Sex, including first date sex, is way cool.

But, enjoy the game, all of it. It is after all a one-way trip.
 

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Love women and love their company. I think feminine energy is a great balance to the masculine. It helps to accept them as they are. Women will act like women. Thinking anything else will cause disappointment and resentment.
 

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The women who's company I enjoy would not be enjoyed by my penis and vice versa. The rare time we both would enjoy her, she's married or with someone. So it goes.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
I enjoy women for their superficial outer qualities such as sex and affection and not their wicked hypergamous sociopathic inner core.
Exactly. Though affection only works if I like the girl enough. Good enough to be a GF and I welcome the affection.

That core is repulsive to me.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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LorenzoVonM said:
Love women and love their company. I think feminine energy is a great balance to the masculine.
That's what I think, they make a great balance. Yin and yang and all that. I certainly enjoy their company. A lot of the younger guys here complain that they can't talk about sports or whatever with women. But men can be annoying too.

Warrior74 said:
The women who's company I enjoy would not be enjoyed by my penis and vice versa. The rare time we both would enjoy her, she's married or with someone.
It's no surprise that the most attractive women are taken. I think Backbreaker said something to the effect that by the time you get into your 30s, all the first rounders have been snatched up, and that makes a lot of sense. The most sexy, fun, and beautiful women aren't going to be on the market long before they get snatched up. Chances are, you aren't the first guy to notice them.
 

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Zarky said:
All my friends except one are women. Most are ex-girlfriends LOL
I have a theory that men tend to grow to prefer women's company as they get older. No proof here, just a theory, I'd like to see what others think of it.

It starts out when you're kids, and the whole "ugh, girls are gross" thing.

Then it moves on to what you see on the general forum with all the 20 year olds - the girls are hot but they can't take the place of their "bros".

But by the time you get to a certain age, you'd rather hang around with a woman with her specific charms, as opposed to a guy who wants to beat you in bowling and get a better looking girl than you.
 

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I enjoy my wife's company she's very light hearted and always upbeat. she puts me in a pretty good mood more times than not.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
I enjoy women for their superficial outer qualities such as sex and affection and not their wicked hypergamous sociopathic inner core.
Scormus said:
Exactly. Though affection only works if I like the girl enough. Good enough to be a GF and I welcome the affection.

That core is repulsive to me.
Guys, see a shrink. I'm serious.
 

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Dear Scormus,
"I want their bodies, but not whats in their hearts."...Pretty much agree with your sentiments,my Male friends are much more interesting,and most importantly I understand them...No if it weren't for their Pussies,they would be stacked ten deep,out at the County Garbage Tip with all the other Witches,LOL.
 

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backbreaker said:
I enjoy my wife's company she's very light hearted and always upbeat. she puts me in a pretty good mood more times than not.
I feel the same as this, which is a nice place to be imo.
 

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backbreaker said:
I enjoy my wife's company she's very light hearted and always upbeat. she puts me in a pretty good mood more times than not.
Yeah, until I met my current girlfriend, I thought that *****iness was just a trait that all women shared. But she is probably the most laid back, mellow person I've even known, male or female.

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Personally, I'm not "im love" with the idea that I could be emotionally invested in an opposite sex that will often leave me if I lose my job I.e. kick me when down.
It's hard to be crazy about that idea, true. Seems to be part of the equation though. There's nothing to be done about it, so it doesn't really bother me. And I also never allow myself to be totally invested. I always figure if I lose a girl, there's always another one waiting to take her place.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Scormus said:
Seems I am in that camp now. Acting my way through dates, I only need them for what's between their legs.
I had to think about this question. I enjoy being around women who behave like adult women and have good demeanors, femininity and grasp on life and its hardships. A feminine, real woman is great to have around provided she isn't completely physically repulsive. The second I start seeing the gossip, insecurity, male shaming (omg he's a CREEPER), loudness/crudeness, self-centeredness and cattiness fly around, I'm turned off pretty fast and would rather be alone or spend my time with more worthy people.
 

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I do enjoy their company; I have women friends with absolutely no sexual connections. However, when I focus on a woman with some kind of a relationship in mind, the Peter Meter kicks in, and it takes some effort not to say or do stupid things for the sake of eventually closing the deal. (Yes, even at my age, I tend the often think with the wrong head. Damnation!)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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