"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Do we really need women for anything other than sex?

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So I'm thinking that all we actually need women for is sex. Assuming you don't want kids, then sexual gratification is all we need women for.

I'm not convinced by society's lie that we need women for 'emotional fulfillment' or 'to share my life with someone' or 'to cook for me' or any of that bull****.

I personally think true fulfillment comes from following your passion in life, making it into a purpose and achieving something worthwhile with your life.

I'm not so sure that we as men actually NEED women for anything other than sex. I think our needs are fulfilled in other ways; a relationship with a women is not the solution to long term happiness.

This is why I stay away from commitment to women, and am committed to myself and my dreams. I like women for sex, but seriously, beyond sex, what fulfillment can being with a women REALLY bring?

Anyone else think this way?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yes we also need them to be emotional and affectionate to our offspring in a way that we as men cant and dont want to be most of the time.. So yes we like to F them, but once they refuse to abort and you have a child to pay for they will most likely be the one doing the hands on care taking.....

GAy men are trying to prove that they can be feminine enough to give a child the same level of emotional care as a female but I would rather not go down that road, i prefer women to do what women do best..
 

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DonGorgon said:
Yes we also need them to be emotional and affectionate to our offspring in a way that we as men cant and dont want to be most of the time.. So yes we like to F them, but once they refuse to abort and you have a child to pay for they will most likely be the one doing the hands on care taking.....
Yeah but what if you don't want to have kids, what else do you need a woman for other than sex?
 

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I tend to usually be in a committed ltr. Don't knock the cooking and cleaning thing until you have had it done well. Women can make a house a home, thus the term "homemaker." Plus, even if all you want is more sex - you get more of that in an ltr, at least I do in any ltr I stay in.
 

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Guitar_Whizz said:
Yeah but what if you don't want to have kids, what else do you need a woman for other than sex?
Well many straight men find enjoyment in the companionship of a woman cause she can communicate with you in way that you would not want you buddies to... Sex is like the end result of all the things you find attractive about a woman but you can only physically F her for so long then you have to do other thing while you rest right?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What about you trying to get in to a ltr to see what they can offer you rather than sex? You want your experience from women to be based only in sex? I think if you knew them better you would understand! I've been both in ltr and with women just for sex and I am 100% sure that a ltr> that anything else (except of course if you are in a mood that you don't really want a ltr) You can't say with words the hapiness that a women may bring to your life so I can't tell you that they are needed for something! It's only emotional things they provide that makes the difference even bigger than sex does! How many of us have thought, omfg I'd like to be with her even if I wouldn't f**k her for months! Try a ltr and you'll see! XD

Donjuanit0 out!
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
What about you trying to get in to a ltr to see what they can offer you rather than sex? You want your experience from women to be based only in sex? I think if you knew them better you would understand! I've been both in ltr and with women just for sex and I am 100% sure that a ltr> that anything else (except of course if you are in a mood that you don't really want a ltr) You can't say with words the hapiness that a women may bring to your life so I can't tell you that they are needed for something! It's only emotional things they provide that makes the difference even bigger than sex does! How many of us have thought, omfg I'd like to be with her even if I wouldn't f**k her for months! Try a ltr and you'll see! XD

Donjuanit0 out!
True an i have found that sex is better when the woman give s a damn about you..
 

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No disagreement here, Guitar Whiz.

If chicks really liked sports or were good wing men then I could see other value, but other than that I just need them for sex. I also don't need to communicate differently than I do with my friends.
 

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Max Power said:
No disagreement here, Guitar Whiz.

If chicks really liked sports or were good wing men then I could see other value, but other than that I just need them for sex. I also don't need to communicate differently than I do with my friends.
I think many women feel the same way about men except they also value our willingness to spend money on them due to desperation...
 

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DonGorgon said:
Well many straight men find enjoyment in the companionship of a woman cause she can communicate with you in way that you would not want you buddies to... Sex is like the end result of all the things you find attractive about a woman but you can only physically F her for so long then you have to do other thing while you rest right?
very deep post.

of course you need women for other things than sex. If you think otherwise then i am sorry for you, your outlook on life is very bleak
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Max Power said:
No disagreement here, Guitar Whiz.

If chicks really liked sports or were good wing men then I could see other value, but other than that I just need them for sex.
firstly, there are chicks who really like sports, if that s your main criteria in girls look harder. Have you noticed there is the exact same number of NCAA male athletes as females? i m sure those girls are into sports, maybe even "really like" sports

secondly, a good girl friend acting acting as a wingman is actually the best you can hope for. so before you find one, please reserve your judgement
 

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I mean when you have a girl thats TRULY interested in you, no playing games, you build more of a connection than just physical stuff..she's fun to be around, fun to touch, etc. i havent had THAT many experiences but alot of them have been great
 

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I wouldn't know if men need women for anything other than sex, since I've never been with a woman in a LTR. But I would imagine being with a woman that loves you does something positive to a man's soul.
 
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Well if you are a dead-beat, you can use a woman to pay all your bills like my dad does.
 

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you're a musician right? what if you had a woman in your life who could jam as hard as you did, shared the same musical tastes, and genuinely believed in your art. on top of that you guys totally connected with each other to the point all the bullsht drama was minimal or non-existant

technically you don't NEED her, but wouldn't she be worth keeping in your life?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i totally agree. The only thing women have to offer is their pus5y and their mouths. Relationships are pointless. I just sit back and laugh at my mates always stressed out over their gfs and how they always argue over ****. Not to mention you can't hang out with your boys as much anymore without worrying about the gf calling you and wondering what you're doing every 10 min. Theyre nothing but a fuking headache. BACHELOR FOR LIFE.
 

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Well, if you look at it from the most basic standpoint, you will find that men and women equally need each other for sex - her to fulfill her need to get pregnant, whether it happens or not, and your need to spread seed, whether you use a condom or not. Beyond that, the only other reason men and women need each other is for the same reason men and men and women and women need each other - For companionship and assistance with survival related issues.
 

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ready123 said:
you're a musician right? what if you had a woman in your life who could jam as hard as you did, shared the same musical tastes, and genuinely believed in your art. on top of that you guys totally connected with each other to the point all the bullsht drama was minimal or non-existant

technically you don't NEED her, but wouldn't she be worth keeping in your life?
Possibly, yes, as long as the relationship was an 'open' one and was on my terms. My own life (musical career) could have to come first, and she'd also have to accept that I meet and have sex with other women.

If she was ok about that, it might work. If she became a distraction, she'd be out the door faster than someone in a burning building!

I still prefer being a bachelor, though!
 

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Possibly, yes, as long as the relationship was an 'open' one and was on my terms. My own life (musical career) could have to come first, and she'd also have to accept that I meet and have sex with other women.

If she was ok about that, it might work. If she became a distraction, she'd be out the door faster than someone in a burning building!

I still prefer being a bachelor, though!


Thats cold.
 

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It's all speculation on his part, C-quenced. The only women he's slept with is his mother and my sister, but everyone's slept with her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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