"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Those of you who follow my journal already know this. So there’s this girl, she’s like a 9.5/10 for me. Exactly my type. She’s been kinoing me heavy, stares deep into my eyes, we brush each others’ hair, she likes and comments on all my Instagram pictures, all that. We flirt back and forth all the time, and we even talk about sex and busting nuts all the time. Yet the problem is, she’s engaged.

She invited me out for coffee today. The chemistry was absolutely amazing, it was totally there. I was getting all these buying signals. But the problem is she brought up her fiance, and she was like “oh you can meet him.” I’ve tried to escalate earlier by coming to watch TV in my room, but that hasn’t been successful. I haven’t been able to isolate her one on one just yet. I may be able to next week, but we’ll see. It was recommended that I kiss her in the car, but honestly I just don’t have the balls. I can make a move if we hang out isolated.

My question is, do I even have a chance with this girl? Should I even bother making a move? Honestly, I’m so confused. She’s literally exactly my type. But I don’t know if this is interest: I’m getting all these signals, but she’s brought up her fiancé a couple times. I know an Alpha Male goes for what he wants. But the issue is, she’s exactly my type but I don’t know if I should incur the wrath of an angry fiancé. My Chad friends said go for it.

Sosuave, what do I do? Do I make a move or do I just add her to my social circle?
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I know you prob wont listen ( i would not at your age}

But just stop it right now
Not worth it? Tbh this seems very very advanced

It’s just killing me because she’s exactly my type and I know chemistry is there. I could probably pull something, but idk if it would work
 

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Not worth it? Tbh this seems very very advanced

It’s just killing me because she’s exactly my type and I know chemistry is there. I could probably pull something, but idk if it would work
And what are you going to do with her? F8ck her? Ok, oh I get it, you want a serious relationship with her. If she cheated with you, what makes you think she wouldn't cheat on you with someone else?
 

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And what are you going to do with her? F8ck her? Ok, oh I get it, you want a serious relationship with her. If she cheated with you, what makes you think she wouldn't cheat on you with someone else?
I would just want to fvck her. I don’t really see a point in getting myself into a relationship until my SMV and Game are on lock. But idk if I should even make a move and deal with an irate fiancé if I mess this up? Then again she’s exactly my type, so I’m split down the middle.

Although for relationships, I totally agree that if she’d cheat with me she’d cheat on me.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I would just want to fvck her. I don’t really see a point in getting myself into a relationship until my SMV and Game are on lock. But idk if I should even make a move and deal with an irate fiancé if I mess this up? Then again she’s exactly my type, so I’m split down the middle.

Although for relationships, I totally agree that if she’d cheat with me she’d cheat on me.
a spurned fiance who might be off his rocker? not worth it. I mean, unless she does something seriously out there in the bedroom, it's highly unlikely she's any better than like 90% of the females out there.
 

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a spurned fiance who might be off his rocker? not worth it. I mean, unless she does something seriously out there in the bedroom, it's highly unlikely she's any better than like 90% of the females out there.
Yeah, I feel you. I’m talking to other women right now too, but how frustrating that the ones that I really click with are always in some kind of relationship. I mean it could work, my friends have definitely done stuff like this, but idk if this would blow up in my face or not. Such mixed messages
 

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the ones that I really click with are always in some kind of relationship.
It’s an illusion because she’s taken. Looks issues aside, taken women are often more friendly, chill, charming, fun, etc. Then it seems like they are your dream girl. They aren’t. They’re taken.

Find a pissed off chick. She’s more likely to be single lol.

I’m at a point now where if she is too happy/friendly/chill/funny, I’ll friendzone her and not even try. She’s happy because she already has a steady D.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She likes you, but she is taken. No matter what you do it will end the same way, you will not get her. So you are asking what to do... NO matter what road you take you end up in the same place.

1. The Short Road: Just tell her you can't hang out with her, pretending to be her friend it's living a lie. Chicks love that emtional sh!t. Then tell her if things so sideways with the marriage let you know.

2. The Long Road: Or... make a move, go for a kiss, try to seduce her. If she opens up, then just fvck her... then you will know what kind of chick she is. If she'll fvck you when she is engaged, what do you think is going to happen if you end up with her. You will become a paranoid, mate guarding, piece of cr@p. That will happen, or she will push back and say "What are you doing!?" then she will vanish because all she really wanted from you was your attention.

Take the short road and save some time.
 

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Two points:

-You are blinded by her looks, and probably her attention towards you because at least at the moment, you don't have any better options. Part of you wants her because you know that you can't; and that works for her as well.

-There are a number of reasons why she is a terrible option; almost all of them relating to her lack of loyalty. By the very nature of the OP, it is obvious you've caught feels for this bird already, despite the fact that nothing has really happened. That will only escalate once something does happen, and more than likely you will be left high and dry. She might be good for the odd roll in the hay, but she's not a long term option by any means. 'If they can cheat with you, they can cheat on you'. So get any thoughts of longevity straight out of mind immediately. Lastly, you have no idea what this guy's reaction will be if/when he finds out. He's obviously invested in this woman beyond a standard bf-gf level, and he's not going to be happy....

I could go on.... but in conclusion;

Use the of attention from a hot woman to inspire you to go out and meet others. It's not really a case of 'giving up'; it's more a case of this being a terrible, terrible idea. Think with your head; and less with your heart/d!ck.
 

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She likes you, but she is taken. No matter what you do it will end the same way, you will not get her. So you are asking what to do... NO matter what road you take you end up in the same place.

1. The Short Road: Just tell her you can't hang out with her, pretending to be her friend it's living a lie. Chicks love that emtional sh!t. Then tell her if things so sideways with the marriage let you know.

2. The Long Road: Or... make a move, go for a kiss, try to seduce her. If she opens up, then just fvck her... then you will know what kind of chick she is. If she'll fvck you when she is engaged, what do you think is going to happen if you end up with her. You will become a paranoid, mate guarding, piece of cr@p. That will happen, or she will push back and say "What are you doing!?" then she will vanish because all she really wanted from you was your attention.

Take the short road and save some time.
OP you'd do well to follow this advice.
 

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I don't think you're as close to doing anything with her as you think. The moment she brought up her fiance for you to meet, it was over. She's loving the attention you're giving her and happily going home to **** her fiance.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Get away from it

Too much drama even if you are level headed it will affect you
And on the short term might lower your SMV

Drama and Craziness is contagious dont be in contact with it
 
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