"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do I ask her out?

TheVampSlayer

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So, there's this girl(A) in my school with whom I don't speak a lot. She's very pretty. Her best friend(B) and B's boyfriend(C) are really good friends of mine. I made plans to go eat with both B and C, but B invited A so that I wouldn't be the third wheel. We had a good time. I made a bet with A and whoever lost had to pay for each other's meal some other day. I lost(I wanted to). Now, A told me that she expects a date(jokingly). I don't like A, but she seems like a good candidate for being my girlfriend. Should I ask her out(due to the bet)? I don't think she is particularly interested in me, but maybe I can make it work if we have some time alone on a date. What do you guys say? Also, if the answer is yes, how do I do it(must be by text, won't see her for 2 months unless I ask her out)?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TheVampSlayer said:
A told me that she expects a date(jokingly). [...] Should I ask her out?
YES. But just for the fun of it.


TheVampSlayer said:
how do I do it(must be by text, won't see her for 2 months unless I ask her out)?
"What day are you free this week? Lets go on the date".


If you dont do it soon she will probably forget and think its creepy. Out of curiosity, why wont you see her for 2 months?
 

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First, thanks for replying.Second, I won't see her for two months because I'm not going to high school because I'm training for the International Math Olympiad. So, I won't get to see my classmates until August. I'm not a stereotypical nerd, though. My natural personality is ****y funny.
 

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Why wouldn't you ask her out? Dates are useful even when they're bad.
 

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Because I didn't quite notice IOIs. I'm gonna do it, but not because there was any interest, only for the fun of it, like DragonBlood said.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Reckoning

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Yeah don't burden yourself with interest early, always think of dates as fun tools, if you got time, just go on dates with whoever looks decent for your standards.
 

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No worries mate. good luck with the IMO
 

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@Reckoning That's good advice, I will keep it on my mind.
@DragonBlood Thanks.
 

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So, I asked her out. It went like this(translated from spanish):

Me: Hey, it's TheVampSlayer. Let's have that date, what days are you free this week?
A:Hi, tomorrow or friday I think haha
Me: Friday at 2:30?
A: Yep(and an emoticon)
Me: Ok. See ya

So, everything went great. I need to ask, was it a good idea to send that last message? How would any of you have ended the conversation (I'm thinking the "see ya" might make me seem to eager)
 

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TheVampSlayer said:
So, I asked her out. It went like this(translated from spanish):

Me: Hey, it's TheVampSlayer. Let's have that date, what days are you free this week?
A:Hi, tomorrow or friday I think haha
Me: Friday at 2:30?
A: Yep(and an emoticon)
Me: Ok. See ya

So, everything went great. I need to ask, was it a good idea to send that last message? How would any of you have ended the conversation (I'm thinking the "see ya" might make me seem to eager)
You're over thinking it man. Good job you got a date go out have some fun and let us know how it goes
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Okay, ***** flaked. She took B's(reread original post) cellphone(without me knowing) and asked me,

A(as B): are you gonna go eat with A?
Me: Don't know. If she doesn't ask for confirmation then I probably won't show up.
A(as B): A says yes.
A(as B): Can you make it earlier -A (it was A pretending to be B sending a message for A)
Me: I can't, I'm booked until 2.

And then B gets her phone back and says
B: That was B talking
Me: since when?
B: Since "are you gonna go eat with A?"

And then A sent me this message:

A: Hii, again haha. Let's go another day! The thing is that I've got math classes at 1 (sad faje emoji) [to be fair, she sucks at math and has a big test on monday]
Me: That's okay. No problem.

My question is, should I reschedule? When and how?
Also, did I handle it properly? Any comments?
 

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In the future, when another girl asks about a girl, never answer her straight. Just ignore the text or say something like "I don't know I may cancel because I have to wash my hair" or some bullish.

Also, whenever you think to yourself "should I ask her out" the answer is always yes. Just do it because it's better to know she's not interested than to always wonder.
 

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@Uncharted B is sort of my best female friend and she has a boyfriend, does the same still apply? Also, she has wanted A and me to be a couple since the beginning of time.
 

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Yes it always applies. Don't tell her everything. It doesn't matter what she wants, she's already causing drama by giving the other girl her phone.

Don't let other people get involved just handle it yourself.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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@Uncharted okay, noted. Also, did I properly handle the conversation? It won't happen again but did I play it right? I mean, did it affect me negatively?
 

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I dont understand how you went from having a date with a chick you dont like (you said this in your original post, wtf?), to getting a flake because of your aloofness when A texted pretending she was your friend B.

Hilarious really.

By the way, this is what really killed your chances with A:

A(as B): are you gonna go eat with A?
Me: Don't know. If she doesn't ask for confirmation then I probably won't show up.
A(as B): A says yes.


Buen trabajo...
 

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pyros said:
Me: Don't know. If she doesn't ask for confirmation then I probably won't show up.
Wow Vamp, that makes you sound like the biggest **** of all time.

Me: Friday at 2:30?
A: Yep :)

What more confirmation do you need? You were planning to stand her up! Attraction was lost! Do nothing now. Reschedule in a weeks time.


Regarding your question, Here is how I would of handled this nonsense.


A(as B): are you gonna go eat with A?
DB: <no response>


The question "B" asked was rude. That doesnt mean you need to riff on the phone, just ignore.
 

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@DragonBlood okay, thanks. So next time I show up regardless of second confirmation. And I will also start ignoring. Thanks for the reply.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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