Precursor
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Yo i wonder if girls need forums like this to help aid their lives?? or are they naturally seductive, cunning, and masterminds?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Do Girls need a forum?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Girls are just like us. There are AFC girls, DJ girls. The hotter, the more Don Juan/Jerk they are. The uglier, the nicer they are. Some girls are sleepers (not as a hoe, but like in fantasy football sleeper), and don't know their own beauty and might be nice. Same thing with guys.
But overall, girls are better at the game than we are.
But overall, girls are better at the game than we are.
Francisco d'Anconia
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You give them way too much credit. Go check out the forums at Oprah.com, DrPhil.com or iVilliage.com and then reconsider who you are up against.Precursor said:Yo i wonder if girls need forums like this to help aid their lives?? or are they naturally seductive, cunning, and masterminds?
CactusMcDougal
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This is an unfortunate truth. As long as women are the defensors in the game, we, the agressors, will always be at a disadvantage. That's why I, like many Eternal Nice Guys, only play a defensive game...if we play at all.Girls are just like us. There are AFC girls, DJ girls. The hotter, the more Don Juan/Jerk they are. The uglier, the nicer they are. Some girls are sleepers (not as a hoe, but like in fantasy football sleeper), and don't know their own beauty and might be nice. Same thing with guys.
But overall, girls are better at the game than we are.
Its not that they are better, its that they are playing a completely different game. The girls job is to show up, look good, and make themselves available. After that they just have to filter through the crap they attract.
A guys job is to pick what he wants and go for it. Like I said different game completely.
If you want proof just think of the last time you were hanging out and a girl came up to you and asked you for your number. Not very often. They have their games, we have ours, and if were lucky both teams come out winners.
As for them needing outside help, next time your at a super market look at the magazine rack. I guarantee you'll see 50 headlines about how girls can make themselves more attractive to have more success.
In a sense we kind of lucked out considering we can do something about our situation to make it much better. Girls kind of get stuck working within the restrictions of their natural beauty, so all they can do is attempt to make up for there shortcomings with makeup, heels, and hairstyles.
A guys job is to pick what he wants and go for it. Like I said different game completely.
If you want proof just think of the last time you were hanging out and a girl came up to you and asked you for your number. Not very often. They have their games, we have ours, and if were lucky both teams come out winners.
As for them needing outside help, next time your at a super market look at the magazine rack. I guarantee you'll see 50 headlines about how girls can make themselves more attractive to have more success.
In a sense we kind of lucked out considering we can do something about our situation to make it much better. Girls kind of get stuck working within the restrictions of their natural beauty, so all they can do is attempt to make up for there shortcomings with makeup, heels, and hairstyles.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Francisco d'Anconia said:You give them way too much credit. Go check out the forums at Oprah.com, DrPhil.com or iVilliage.com and then reconsider who you are up against.
Exactly, what we men have compared to the resources women have on dating and relationships is pretty much a drop in their bucket. Plus the majority of men in our society would probably shun or won't even think about educating themselves on how to deal with women better. It's a shame but the men like us who find a wealth of information like the "seduction community" are truly blessed.
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There was a time when I thought that my mother held all pertinent information. That all changed when I found this forum.
GaryUranga
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Dude, stop being a nice guy, is not nice.
IMO, its the same as us, except society has built the whole "guys chase, girls pick" image as you can see in movies and such, but I know a bunhc of girls that have all theese self image problems though theyre beautiful (of course I dont tell them that) but theres maaany AFC girls, they can always get the horny/low standard guys, but this doesnt happen for guys too often.
IMO, its the same as us, except society has built the whole "guys chase, girls pick" image as you can see in movies and such, but I know a bunhc of girls that have all theese self image problems though theyre beautiful (of course I dont tell them that) but theres maaany AFC girls, they can always get the horny/low standard guys, but this doesnt happen for guys too often.