Precursor
Don Juan
Yo i wonder if girls need forums like this to help aid their lives?? or are they naturally seductive, cunning, and masterminds?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Do Girls need a forum?
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Girls are just like us. There are AFC girls, DJ girls. The hotter, the more Don Juan/Jerk they are. The uglier, the nicer they are. Some girls are sleepers (not as a hoe, but like in fantasy football sleeper), and don't know their own beauty and might be nice. Same thing with guys.
But overall, girls are better at the game than we are.
But overall, girls are better at the game than we are.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
You give them way too much credit. Go check out the forums at Oprah.com, DrPhil.com or iVilliage.com and then reconsider who you are up against.Precursor said:Yo i wonder if girls need forums like this to help aid their lives?? or are they naturally seductive, cunning, and masterminds?
CactusMcDougal
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This is an unfortunate truth. As long as women are the defensors in the game, we, the agressors, will always be at a disadvantage. That's why I, like many Eternal Nice Guys, only play a defensive game...if we play at all.Girls are just like us. There are AFC girls, DJ girls. The hotter, the more Don Juan/Jerk they are. The uglier, the nicer they are. Some girls are sleepers (not as a hoe, but like in fantasy football sleeper), and don't know their own beauty and might be nice. Same thing with guys.
But overall, girls are better at the game than we are.
Its not that they are better, its that they are playing a completely different game. The girls job is to show up, look good, and make themselves available. After that they just have to filter through the crap they attract.
A guys job is to pick what he wants and go for it. Like I said different game completely.
If you want proof just think of the last time you were hanging out and a girl came up to you and asked you for your number. Not very often. They have their games, we have ours, and if were lucky both teams come out winners.
As for them needing outside help, next time your at a super market look at the magazine rack. I guarantee you'll see 50 headlines about how girls can make themselves more attractive to have more success.
In a sense we kind of lucked out considering we can do something about our situation to make it much better. Girls kind of get stuck working within the restrictions of their natural beauty, so all they can do is attempt to make up for there shortcomings with makeup, heels, and hairstyles.
A guys job is to pick what he wants and go for it. Like I said different game completely.
If you want proof just think of the last time you were hanging out and a girl came up to you and asked you for your number. Not very often. They have their games, we have ours, and if were lucky both teams come out winners.
As for them needing outside help, next time your at a super market look at the magazine rack. I guarantee you'll see 50 headlines about how girls can make themselves more attractive to have more success.
In a sense we kind of lucked out considering we can do something about our situation to make it much better. Girls kind of get stuck working within the restrictions of their natural beauty, so all they can do is attempt to make up for there shortcomings with makeup, heels, and hairstyles.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Francisco d'Anconia said:You give them way too much credit. Go check out the forums at Oprah.com, DrPhil.com or iVilliage.com and then reconsider who you are up against.
Exactly, what we men have compared to the resources women have on dating and relationships is pretty much a drop in their bucket. Plus the majority of men in our society would probably shun or won't even think about educating themselves on how to deal with women better. It's a shame but the men like us who find a wealth of information like the "seduction community" are truly blessed.
CactusMcDougal
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There was a time when I thought that my mother held all pertinent information. That all changed when I found this forum.
GaryUranga
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Dude, stop being a nice guy, is not nice.
IMO, its the same as us, except society has built the whole "guys chase, girls pick" image as you can see in movies and such, but I know a bunhc of girls that have all theese self image problems though theyre beautiful (of course I dont tell them that) but theres maaany AFC girls, they can always get the horny/low standard guys, but this doesnt happen for guys too often.
IMO, its the same as us, except society has built the whole "guys chase, girls pick" image as you can see in movies and such, but I know a bunhc of girls that have all theese self image problems though theyre beautiful (of course I dont tell them that) but theres maaany AFC girls, they can always get the horny/low standard guys, but this doesnt happen for guys too often.