"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
do girls like drama?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Now, the word "drama" is tricky. Girls like to FEEL. They like to feel a whole range of emotions. That's what a lot of learning to attract girls is all about. The push/pulls, the C&F, the kino, etc. It's about making them feel different things. They like this, so if you do that, they'll like you.
That's why nice guys and AFCs bore women. They don't make them FEEL anything out of the ordinary. That's why girls fall for @ssholes. They'd rather feel those negative feelings than feel the nothingness that the wussyboy has to offer.
That's why girls watch Lifetime and read romance novels and all that crap. The drama.
My last GF wasen't that way though, she was a really cool chick and the only ex I actually still get along with after we broke up.
Now I had some other plates going after her, the last one was a real dramaqueen. First she wants me and I'm really into this girl, but she's going really fast. Calling me "baby" and telling me how much she likes me.
Now this kinda scared me cause it was going to fast, but I didn't wanna lose this girl so I thought "best thing to do is act the same way" that way she won't get spooked. Epic fail...
The moment I started acting like she did, she started backing off. I finally ask her what's up and she tells me: 'You're going to fast'. I was like: 'WTF, I'm just acting the way you did girl. You were going to fast for me but I didn't wanna scare you'. We kinda made up but it just wasen't the same.
So a week passes, I'm in her bed, she's acting non receptive so I point it out that it's just not working out. She agrees. I tell her we shouldn't hook up again, she agrees again. Then she starts asking me personal questions like why I'm so cold.
I dunno why I did it but some how I told her a really personal story about me and my brother and she knew it was for real. Next thing I know she starts kissing me again and sitting on top of me
. Few days later, she was non receptive again .Anyhow, I broke it off for real after that. I still like her considering she's really nice, very VERY good looking girl but I just can't keep up with the drama this girl needs. To bad though, if she wasen't such a dramaqueen she would've been nice to have as a gf.
Ow well, Next
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Some b!tches sure are hypocrites
. I dunno why I keep up with sh.t like that too, guess in a way I can be a nice guy never thought that would happenAce_Magnamus
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She screamed at me, stormed back to the hotel, said "if you touch me again I'll call the police", and then had sex with me.
I took that as a "yes".
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
If they didn't then there's no explanation for soap operas and sex n the city being on the air as long as they have.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
CantTouchMyStyle
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ARocket answered my question pretty well when he mentioned that they like to "feel".
should you start some drama with a girl just for drama's sake?
Same exact **** is going on w/ my girl right now and I think it's way too late to fix. This same scenario happened to me a couple days ago and I did the stupid AFC move of asking "WTF?" instead of just saying it wasnt working out.Credos said:
I'm going over to her house tonight and if it's the same **** I will just man up and say it's not working out. I was just planning on using her for sex / trying to get some other girls (girls think your more attractive while taken, especially by a hot girl) but if sex won't even happen, what's the point?
PRMoon
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I don't think "like" as in enjoy drama in their lives is necessarily the correct term. Girls enjoy gossip and secrets. It's essentially currency in their cliques most of the time. It gives then status advantage over other girls especially when they're at a physical disadvantage fron their counterparts. In order for that world to exist, there must be some form and level of drama around them almost constantly. So they vicariously like it despite the b*tching that accompanies it.garruk said:
And don't worry about "starting drama" with a girl. Just by being around her or her friends or her friends friends or some one she heard about but doesn't know, your involvement has already begun.
In2theGame
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lolozzfest said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.