"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Do gifts work for getting laid or did I get lucky?

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Well if u r interested in a pity fvck or a thank you fvck, then go for it.
 

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If you bring her a $500 gift card on the second date, what will you buy her on the third?
 

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So guys I’ll get a little gift $100-$200. For the record the girl I got the $500 gift card I have not spent a dollar on since a whole year later. Surprisingly she’s all over me
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I would. Fastest way to the promised land.

The top players in here don’t need to. They just “exist” and the hot young girls feel privileged to get the sex from them.

Rock on!
Exactly. I chased this girl for months one time, finally spent some cash on her and she put out. She sucks me off and ****s me in the bathrooms of five star restaurants.

She wanted $1000 wallet for her birthday. I said no and she threw a fit. But still ****s me anyways.

The last girl I was with I spent a lot of cash taking her on trips with me the first month we dated, then got cheap as hell. Made her split the tab every time we went out the last year of the relationship. She still dates me for years.

These have been by real world examples. alot of guys here are going by logic. But In the real world, from what I’ve seen, spending cash on girls works.
 

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Exactly. I chased this girl for months one time, finally spent some cash on her and she put out. She sucks me off and ****s me in the bathrooms of five star restaurants.

She wanted $1000 wallet for her birthday. I said no and she threw a fit. But still ****s me anyways.

The last girl I was with I spent a lot of cash taking her on trips with me the first month we dated, then got cheap as hell. Made her split the tab every time we went out the last year of the relationship. She still dates me for years.

These have been by real world examples. alot of guys here are going by logic. But In the real world, from what I’ve seen, spending cash on girls works.
You say you chased her for months with no progress, but when you threw cash at her she came around. If sex is the ultimate victory for you, then ok you won, but can you honestly not see why we aren't encouraging you to do this?

You're worth more then just your money, and we want you to be with women who see that same value in you as a man that we do, that's why we aren't encouraging you to do this kind of stuff. we just think you deserve to be appreciated for much more then just you're monetary value

We're tired of women only judging men based on what they can provide, as if we're not all unique individuals with our own distinct qualities that deserve to be noticed. All the while they bring nothing to the table to make you happy, but sex and *******s

You said you spent a lot of money on a woman, and took her on trips, and in return you got her to SPLIT tabs during the LAST YEAR year of the relationship?... if you're ok with that kind of return investment then fine OP, but I refuse to not have my greatness fully recognized and appreciated
 

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I think we have to be a little bit real here guys sooner or later you always pay. Well at least if you earn more than her. If you're being generous that's one thing that's your call as a man. Some guys do some guys don't. It's when she demands it I get the sh1ts.
 

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I think we have to be a little bit real here guys sooner or later you always pay. Well at least if you earn more than her. If you're being generous that's one thing that's your call as a man. Some guys do some guys. It's when she demands it I get the sh1ts.
Yea, but there's levels to it
 

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Depends on your intent. I'm magnanimous and so will grab the tab even if within a large party. But my generosity to a new girl is strictly my time and attention. That is more than enough. To be more generous than that would mean I am attempting to negotiate desire, which cannot be done.

All else is a business transaction. BUT if you are trading resources for sex, why not just grab a h00ker? If you're going to be straight up, then be straight up. (To be clear h00kers is not my cup of tea).
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It all depends on how rich you are and what dropping $500 feels like. If it's a drop in the bucket, fine. But even billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was paying chicks just $200 quid pro quo for massages and sex.
Did you really just use Jeffrey Epstein as an example... Ok I'm done with this thread lol

OP just be the biggest trick you can be, follow your dreams. It's your world baby
 

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Come clean, how drunk were you to spend $500 on that girl?
 
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