"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Do flakes ever come back?

t510

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Does anyone have experience where a girl flakes after a couple dates then you disappear and she comes back?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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El Payaso

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This is funny because I just got a text from an old flake.
 

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no way what did she say.. how long since you last talked to her
 

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Yes, flakes usually do return, but its usually because something else had fallen through and they view you as a safety net.

In my experience, flakes reappear 75% of the time.

The real question is: When & when not to give a flake another chance?
 

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They comes back especially if they find you a challenge since you had no interest pursuing them compare to the treatment they get from AFC's.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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El Payaso

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t510 said:
no way what did she say.. how long since you last talked to her
Well, she flaked on me big time. Day of our date, she ignored my texts and calls. So i just sent her a text saying I don't like my time being wasted and I could have been out with someone else now. That was a week ago and I had since deleted her number. She started texting me last night but I ignored them. This morning, I woke up to two missed calls and two more texts from her.

Her: So do you hate me? I know I'm really awful at keeping up with my phone but I really do like you a lot, El Payaso. You amaze me.

Her: I'll be in you area all day tomorrow.

I still haven't replied and don't know if I want to.
 

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SmooveMooves said:
Yes, flakes usually do return, but its usually because something else had fallen through and they view you as a safety net.

In my experience, flakes reappear 75% of the time.

The real question is: When & when not to give a flake another chance?
good
point
 

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El Payaso said:
Well, she flaked on me big time. Day of our date, she ignored my texts and calls. So i just sent her a text saying I don't like my time being wasted and I could have been out with someone else now. That was a week ago and I had since deleted her number. She started texting me last night but I ignored them. This morning, I woke up to two missed calls and two more texts from her.

Her: So do you hate me? I know I'm really awful at keeping up with my phone but I really do like you a lot, El Payaso. You amaze me.

Her: I'll be in you area all day tomorrow.

I still haven't replied and don't know if I want to.
stay strong and resist, if you respond, her hamster will celebrate with champagne
 

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If a woman flakes on you, you have failed.

If a flake comes back, it's because the guy she flaked on you for didn't work out. I don't give flakes a second chance. One flake and the girl is out. Women make time for men they're interested in. I don't go back to flakes because they just end up wanting to be friends. We all know how that works out!

Would she flake on Channing Tatum? Hell no. She'd swim across the Chattahoochee River for that!

Case closed.
 

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So ummmm, you guys were right. I should have read this thread before picking up her call today. I didn't know I would get responses to my post. She called me again this afternoon and I picked up. She said she was in my area and wanted to see me at 7pm. I said yes.

7pm. No call, no show. Got a call from her a few minutes around 9pm saying she's really sorry but she got in an accident so she couldn't make it. I just said okay and dropped the phone.

Lmfao. Wow. The tales some women spin indeed. Well, I've learned my lesson and like nismo said, one flake and the girl is out. I tried the supplicating and understanding route but that obviously doesn't work. Women take your patience for stupidity.

Whatever. I don't even care because I have a more interesting girl that I went on a date with two nights ago. What is funny is that the flaky girl was calling and texting me WHILE I WAS ON THE DATE WITH THIS GIRL. It was mildly entertaining to say the least.

Anyway, I went bowling with her and then we had dinner at a nice restaurant. Heavy kino all the time. She was very receptive to me and the date was very good overall. I dropped her home and she gave me a kiss on the cheek. 1 minute after I left, I got a text from her.

Her: I almost kissed you on your lips but I didn't know how you would take it. Goodnight, El Payaso.

Me: Come outside.

Her: Lol...what?

Me: Come outside in 5 minutes.

Her: We can do it some other time...I'm already in my PJs.

Me: Do what?

Her: The kissing.

Me: Not that silly. There was something you forgot in my car. I wanted to give it back to you. (This was a total lie. The only thing she forgot in my car was a makeout session).

Her: What is it?

Me: I think it's a card. I'm not sure. (Total lie again).

She came out and I grabbed her and kissed her. We made out for like a good 5 minutes or so then she asked me to come inside since it's kind of cold. I knew what that meant but I had to turn her down because I was extremely tired and had work in the morning. We said our goodbyes and I left.

Within like a minute of leaving her house again, I got a text from her.

Her: I like you! You're very charming.


Don't worry, guys. She's a definite bang for sure and her IL is through the roof.

She just texted me tonight and was like "I had a wonderful time with you last night. We need to see each other again and this time longer!"

Here are pics of our convo. I cut out some parts because of sensitive information:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21187880/picsay-1394938343.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21187880/picsay-1394938485.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21187880/picsay-1394938603.jpg

Thanks for the lesson, guys. El Payaso is never giving a flaky girl a second shot ever again.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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