"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DJ experts, after you have her, advice on keeping her and staying in control...

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I know if you are completely cold she would probably leave, so I know you mostly just have action dates or just do things don't talk much or let her talk more. I am trying to figure out how to go about it when she is going to say I don't talk much or why I won't go in relationship. Besides saying we are enjoying each others company right now lets just play it by ear. What else would you do over the course of time? I know to only see her once a week and sometimes make excuse blow her off as well.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Twice a week is OK no more because then you're losing frame ie you're stopping doing the things you need to do to hang out with this chick.

I suggest you go and check out the mature man section obviously 45 year olds r going to have had more LTRs than 25 year olds

Woman r like weeds they ll take over if you let them. In my experience it's basically about three things

1. Give them experiences that stimulate their emotions - EG take him to a concert so they get that huge group vibe, chill out on a Sunday morning and read the paper to each other so you get that togetherness vibe, take her to play sports or an amusement park or hard out dancing so you get those endorphins going. Pick the occasional fight with her when she's doing annoying s*** most times of course when she's playing up your default is just to remove attention.

2. Give her pampering sensuality and the best fvcking she s ever known.

3. The rest is about maintaining frame when she s*** tests you. And there's plenty of that in the mature man section if you look. Motu s posts are good. Also Google Dave from Hawaii on chateau heartiste

Damn this is good advice I wish I'd known it 10 years ago
 
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And just in case you missed the whole theme of sosuave. Don't catch oneitis too soon. Until you ve been going out for 3 to 4 months and she's asked to be exclusive it all means nothing and she could disappear in a heartbeat
 
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Okay I understand BUT, I don't want to date women anymore after this last girl ****ed me over, I just want to have **** buddies and hangout I DO NOT want to spend money on women. Last girl was cool she paid her way and made me dinner etc... I want stuff like that. So, what would I need to do to just have girls chill and ****?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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