In accordance to the topic, I think this would help
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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
AARGH! How about starting TODAY, Huno?! I know u didnt think of that, but allow me to push you instead. Get a paper and pen (or open a new text file in Notepad) and write your goals.Originally posted by Huno
[...]I hope to try something like this someday.
Thanks for the kind words, Huno. As for me, the discomfort just keeps on coming. What a day today already!Originally posted by Huno
I love this thread; I think this really is the core of many people's problems, I know it definitely is mine. Keep up the good work, Mr. Style. I hope to try something like this someday.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Good idea Impact! I'll do just that. As for my day today, it was OK but not great. Ways I ventured into the Discomfort Zone:Originally posted by Impact
Hey Mr. Style, you're on the right path.
I have a tip for you thugh. Try to reward yourself everytime you come out of your comfort zone. ie. buy yourself an ice-creamI recently quit smoking, but still ENJOY smoking a cigarette once in a while, but only after I do something uncomfortable (walk up to a girl, study for an exam).
Well Visceral, for me, life has been very comfortable. Perhaps too comfortable. I haven't had to put up with any difficulties or face any real fears. I have spent my adolescence watching TV, playing computer games, staying indoors etc when I should be outside living my life. I think if you feel discomfort on a regular basis then you need to try and correct that as discomfort is not a very fulfilling feeling. I seek discomfort in this "discomfort zone" as a way of strengthening my character as I feel it could be alot stronger. It doesn't mean I want an uncomfortable life, I just want to be confident in myself. Comfort isn't necessarily bad but when it takes over your whole life then it becomes a problem.Originally posted by Visceral
What does it mean when everything you do is in your discomfort zone?
I'm dead serious - pretty much everything in my life, even stuff I've done every day for years and decades, is still either painful, scary, or unsatisfying enough to be outside my comfort zone.
And new stuff is all three put together.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Sounds exactly like my life.Originally posted by Mr.Style
Well Visceral, for me, life has been very comfortable. Perhaps too comfortable. I haven't had to put up with any difficulties or face any real fears. I have spent my adolescence watching TV, playing computer games, staying indoors etc when I should be outside living my life. I think if you feel discomfort on a regular basis then you need to try and correct that as discomfort is not a very fulfilling feeling. I seek discomfort in this "discomfort zone" as a way of strengthening my character as I feel it could be alot stronger. It doesn't mean I want an uncomfortable life, I just want to be confident in myself. Comfort isn't necessarily bad but when it takes over your whole life then it becomes a problem.
Good post, Alpine. I agree with you. I think you have to reach a point where you must choose between a life of comfort that is satisfying in the short-term but lacking in the long-term, or discomfort in the short-term for strength of character in the long-term. I want to strengthen my character as I feel I will become more confident as a result of this. I know I can approach women when I'm drunk but I want to approach women when I'm sober and feel absolutely comfortable (no pun intended) with it.Originally posted by Alpine
To my mind there are two ways to enter the discomfort zone.
1) To reach a point where it's more painful not to enter it.
2) To have such a clear picture of the pleasure gained by the end result that any discomfort now is overridden.
To those guys who say to people here, 'Just do it, stop analysing and just get on with it', sure if they could 'just do it' they would wouldn't they?
The well known book 'Feel the fear' by Susan Jeffers is still probably the best easily read source to understand and overcome our inertia in any area of life.
Hell of a choice :nervous:Originally posted by Mr.Style
I think you have to reach a point where you must choose between a life of comfort that is satisfying in the short-term but lacking in the long-term, or discomfort in the short-term for strength of character in the long-term.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.