In accordance to the topic, I think this would help
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
AARGH! How about starting TODAY, Huno?! I know u didnt think of that, but allow me to push you instead. Get a paper and pen (or open a new text file in Notepad) and write your goals.Originally posted by Huno
[...]I hope to try something like this someday.
Thanks for the kind words, Huno. As for me, the discomfort just keeps on coming. What a day today already!Originally posted by Huno
I love this thread; I think this really is the core of many people's problems, I know it definitely is mine. Keep up the good work, Mr. Style. I hope to try something like this someday.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Good idea Impact! I'll do just that. As for my day today, it was OK but not great. Ways I ventured into the Discomfort Zone:Originally posted by Impact
Hey Mr. Style, you're on the right path.
I have a tip for you thugh. Try to reward yourself everytime you come out of your comfort zone. ie. buy yourself an ice-creamI recently quit smoking, but still ENJOY smoking a cigarette once in a while, but only after I do something uncomfortable (walk up to a girl, study for an exam).
Well Visceral, for me, life has been very comfortable. Perhaps too comfortable. I haven't had to put up with any difficulties or face any real fears. I have spent my adolescence watching TV, playing computer games, staying indoors etc when I should be outside living my life. I think if you feel discomfort on a regular basis then you need to try and correct that as discomfort is not a very fulfilling feeling. I seek discomfort in this "discomfort zone" as a way of strengthening my character as I feel it could be alot stronger. It doesn't mean I want an uncomfortable life, I just want to be confident in myself. Comfort isn't necessarily bad but when it takes over your whole life then it becomes a problem.Originally posted by Visceral
What does it mean when everything you do is in your discomfort zone?
I'm dead serious - pretty much everything in my life, even stuff I've done every day for years and decades, is still either painful, scary, or unsatisfying enough to be outside my comfort zone.
And new stuff is all three put together.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Sounds exactly like my life.Originally posted by Mr.Style
Well Visceral, for me, life has been very comfortable. Perhaps too comfortable. I haven't had to put up with any difficulties or face any real fears. I have spent my adolescence watching TV, playing computer games, staying indoors etc when I should be outside living my life. I think if you feel discomfort on a regular basis then you need to try and correct that as discomfort is not a very fulfilling feeling. I seek discomfort in this "discomfort zone" as a way of strengthening my character as I feel it could be alot stronger. It doesn't mean I want an uncomfortable life, I just want to be confident in myself. Comfort isn't necessarily bad but when it takes over your whole life then it becomes a problem.
Good post, Alpine. I agree with you. I think you have to reach a point where you must choose between a life of comfort that is satisfying in the short-term but lacking in the long-term, or discomfort in the short-term for strength of character in the long-term. I want to strengthen my character as I feel I will become more confident as a result of this. I know I can approach women when I'm drunk but I want to approach women when I'm sober and feel absolutely comfortable (no pun intended) with it.Originally posted by Alpine
To my mind there are two ways to enter the discomfort zone.
1) To reach a point where it's more painful not to enter it.
2) To have such a clear picture of the pleasure gained by the end result that any discomfort now is overridden.
To those guys who say to people here, 'Just do it, stop analysing and just get on with it', sure if they could 'just do it' they would wouldn't they?
The well known book 'Feel the fear' by Susan Jeffers is still probably the best easily read source to understand and overcome our inertia in any area of life.
Hell of a choice :nervous:Originally posted by Mr.Style
I think you have to reach a point where you must choose between a life of comfort that is satisfying in the short-term but lacking in the long-term, or discomfort in the short-term for strength of character in the long-term.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.