How should I proceed? Met a girl and first day I made it obvious I wanted to hookup over text. She turned me down. However shes been asking more to hangout with me and my friend to get to know us. For about 3 months and I've turned her down everytime. I want to test if she's down for sex over text. She invited us to a party. So is saying "I'm coming depending on what your wearing" too forward?Or keep plausible deniability and just try and move things to sex in person somehow.
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
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Direct or Plausible Deniability?
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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Haven't you watched Hamilton?
You pay them in advance.
You treat them with civility.
You have them turn around so they can have deniability.
You pay them in advance.
You treat them with civility.
You have them turn around so they can have deniability.
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They were friends prior for a year. I met her through him and were both roommates. They hung out maybe once per month. Now that I came along and showed interest she asks almost every week to do stuff
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Who cares about text, get her in person. You can't bang her over text and a woman's words are meaningless anyway.
It amazes me how often guys screw themselves out of potential lays with inaction then will write forum posts wondering what to do.
How about you start with the basics and get her out in person?
None of that other sh!t makes any difference. Get her out in person and then escalate as the night goes on. Maybe something will happen maybe nothing will happen. But finding out in real life is much better than playing it out over and over again in your own mind.
It amazes me how often guys screw themselves out of potential lays with inaction then will write forum posts wondering what to do.
How about you start with the basics and get her out in person?
None of that other sh!t makes any difference. Get her out in person and then escalate as the night goes on. Maybe something will happen maybe nothing will happen. But finding out in real life is much better than playing it out over and over again in your own mind.
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Move on
This.
Women need comfort and even though you've established texting comfort, you need to see her in person and establish in person comfort then start seducing away. The fact that she reaches out to you over and over means she's interested in getting to know you in person. Girls don't reach out to orbiters, they reach out to them.
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You can do a lot more in person to give her tingles than you can ever hope to do over text. Text is a very very limited way of communication, use it primarily to get her in person. A girl who would decline sex on text may very well get turned on when you're in front of her.
In2theGame
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Do it in person. You have the right bold attitude already at a young age.
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My rule is plausible deniability always, unless SHE offers sex directly over text which is very rare, and is often just a thirst-trap anyway.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
just don't waste time, you also shouldn't make things over text, aske her out, 1x1, if she goes good if not, go after someone else
also there is no way your friend is interested in her right? he knows you are trying to get in her pants too? that is kinda something you should know
also there is no way your friend is interested in her right? he knows you are trying to get in her pants too? that is kinda something you should know
This is true but I also have realized that texting chemistry doesn't equal real life chemistry. I try to keep a texting to a minimum until I first meet them so I'm not wasting my time.
Thanks so much for the help. Seems like I should stop texting for a definite time and just get her out 1 on 1. I'm just use to the idea every girl will determine if she has sex with you first night.Just off the first 5 seconds of meeting. Messes me up
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It sounds like a troll for the last part but I have some real ****ed up mental issues blocking me. Part of my journey
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This is at best a gross over exaggeration and at worst completely baseless.
The only way a woman determines she wouldn't is if she finds you ugly and below her threshold. But not many guys fall into this category.
Usually most guys are on a sliding scale and her interactions with you wil raise or lower her willingness to fvck you.
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These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
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Focus on a woman's actions, less on the words.
devilkingx2
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Saying something direct is good for testing the girl imo.
Positive response: you're getting laid
Neutral response: game on
Negative response: you're likely wasting time.
But only bother with this if you're unsure of her and not willing or not able to take the risk of just asking her out and going on the date first.