"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Just recently I took this girl out on a date and to summarize we had a great time. Anyway, after a brief conversation about the time we had I decided to ask her out again. She said she would be more than willing to go but she may be going on back home so she would get back to me - asap may I add. So a couple days have passed and after another conversation she said she probably wouldn't be going out of town until sometime next week and that some of her friends wanted to go to a club on the day I wanted to take her out. She then asked if I wanted to go with them. I said "Yes!" - hopefully that wasn't foolish. The thing that gets me is we've only gone out twice and now she's asking me to meet go out with her friends?! Any thoughts or opinions about this?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Play along but bring your own friends and that's it =)
 
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did you have sex with her yet? did you kiss her yet?

if no to both these questions, then please tell me why you are taking her on dates and spending $$ on her?

after you answer that, ask yourself why you are wasting time and money instead of cutting to the chase and isolating and f*cking.
 

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I claim to be no master don juan but I do learn from my personal experiences and here is a huge tip..


avoid her friends at all costs!!!

the only time you should go around friends is when her interest level is so high she values your opinion more than there's..


Women do things for other women ..
They get there hair done so other women will say how nice it looks
They buy there clothes so women say how nice it looks
Do you really care what a cute girl has on when you meet her? No long as
She doesn't look homeless you probably care less..

But females get there confidence often by putting others down..
Ever see thoes super hot girls in the club who shut dudes down before they say 2 words? Sorry I'm ranting

What I'm trying to say is all it would take would be a few negative comments from her friends and viola interest gone..

Alternatively if you go in there and charm her friends and they say things good then interest level up..

Its up to you I'm not a gambler id cancel on this one

Sorry for long post for a simple question
 

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What cola said.

It could go either way, like he said, but it's a gamble with the odd of her friends liking you so much they won't end up c0ckblocking you is very low. Here's why.

If she really really likes you, she will know (intuitively or subconsciously) that her friends will also really really like you. The last thing she wants is for you to be around them so that her b!tch friends would steal you from her in this early stage! As the saying goes: "The only women a girl doesn't trust her BF to be alone with are her BFFs". She would "hide" you from them until she's absolutely confident that she won't lose you to them.

If she doesn't have the serious hots for you, she will need her GFs to judge you for her. The thing is, if she doesn't have high IL, chances are some of her GFs won't like you too much either. If they only have mild IL, they will put you down just to appear superior to her and will c0ckblock you.

It is a losing position to be in. Don't meet the friends until it's already in the bag and you're going to be in a serious relationship. Even if you've already had sex with her but only want it to remain casual, don't meet her friends coz you're just gonna fvck up your reputation.

Meeting the friends is for a potential LTR. Meeting the family is for potential marriage.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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LDBaha said:
Play along but bring your own friends and that's it =)
And add further complications? I prefer to keep it simple - asfew people as possible and ideally just me and her.
 

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Thanks for the input. Looks like the majority vote is to stay out of this situation. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I know she's attracted to me but I don't know how high the attraction level is. Oh, and I know she's is attracted to me for two reasons; one, her coworker is one of my really good friends and she has informed on numerous occasions that she gets a twinkle in her eye every time my name is mentioned. For example, when she ask "Do you think he's cute?" she replies "Oh, he's a hottie." If my friend ask "How was the date?" she gazes aimlessly and says "I had a lot of fun." Second, if she thought I was lame, or unattractive, she wouldn't invite me out to meet her friends. Now, I have to admit, at first I thought this invite was about her gaining her friends approval of me - which is weird because she's friends with my friend who plays a good wing woman. I've even thought it may be her way of stepping out of the realm of shyness she hides behind because she has told me she tends to be shy when she's not around her friends. Regardless, you've opened my eyes up immensely and even though I consider myself to be a charmer, I think this is a gamble not worth taking. Any objections?
 

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Don't go near her friends yet. Trust me...I've learned the hard way. Stay on your "turf" where you can control the situation.
 

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trv26 said:
And add further complications? I prefer to keep it simple - asfew people as possible and ideally just me and her.
Why would that be complicated? I guess I just have a group of friends that are really good socially and always make it easy for me...
 

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ive done this before..
go out with her and her friends.
and spread your attention across her and her girlfriends.

and watch her try to win all ur attention..
and then go home and wake her neighbours up with the bed hinges..
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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