"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Just recently I took this girl out on a date and to summarize we had a great time. Anyway, after a brief conversation about the time we had I decided to ask her out again. She said she would be more than willing to go but she may be going on back home so she would get back to me - asap may I add. So a couple days have passed and after another conversation she said she probably wouldn't be going out of town until sometime next week and that some of her friends wanted to go to a club on the day I wanted to take her out. She then asked if I wanted to go with them. I said "Yes!" - hopefully that wasn't foolish. The thing that gets me is we've only gone out twice and now she's asking me to meet go out with her friends?! Any thoughts or opinions about this?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Play along but bring your own friends and that's it =)
 
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did you have sex with her yet? did you kiss her yet?

if no to both these questions, then please tell me why you are taking her on dates and spending $$ on her?

after you answer that, ask yourself why you are wasting time and money instead of cutting to the chase and isolating and f*cking.
 

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I claim to be no master don juan but I do learn from my personal experiences and here is a huge tip..


avoid her friends at all costs!!!

the only time you should go around friends is when her interest level is so high she values your opinion more than there's..


Women do things for other women ..
They get there hair done so other women will say how nice it looks
They buy there clothes so women say how nice it looks
Do you really care what a cute girl has on when you meet her? No long as
She doesn't look homeless you probably care less..

But females get there confidence often by putting others down..
Ever see thoes super hot girls in the club who shut dudes down before they say 2 words? Sorry I'm ranting

What I'm trying to say is all it would take would be a few negative comments from her friends and viola interest gone..

Alternatively if you go in there and charm her friends and they say things good then interest level up..

Its up to you I'm not a gambler id cancel on this one

Sorry for long post for a simple question
 

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What cola said.

It could go either way, like he said, but it's a gamble with the odd of her friends liking you so much they won't end up c0ckblocking you is very low. Here's why.

If she really really likes you, she will know (intuitively or subconsciously) that her friends will also really really like you. The last thing she wants is for you to be around them so that her b!tch friends would steal you from her in this early stage! As the saying goes: "The only women a girl doesn't trust her BF to be alone with are her BFFs". She would "hide" you from them until she's absolutely confident that she won't lose you to them.

If she doesn't have the serious hots for you, she will need her GFs to judge you for her. The thing is, if she doesn't have high IL, chances are some of her GFs won't like you too much either. If they only have mild IL, they will put you down just to appear superior to her and will c0ckblock you.

It is a losing position to be in. Don't meet the friends until it's already in the bag and you're going to be in a serious relationship. Even if you've already had sex with her but only want it to remain casual, don't meet her friends coz you're just gonna fvck up your reputation.

Meeting the friends is for a potential LTR. Meeting the family is for potential marriage.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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LDBaha said:
Play along but bring your own friends and that's it =)
And add further complications? I prefer to keep it simple - asfew people as possible and ideally just me and her.
 

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Thanks for the input. Looks like the majority vote is to stay out of this situation. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I know she's attracted to me but I don't know how high the attraction level is. Oh, and I know she's is attracted to me for two reasons; one, her coworker is one of my really good friends and she has informed on numerous occasions that she gets a twinkle in her eye every time my name is mentioned. For example, when she ask "Do you think he's cute?" she replies "Oh, he's a hottie." If my friend ask "How was the date?" she gazes aimlessly and says "I had a lot of fun." Second, if she thought I was lame, or unattractive, she wouldn't invite me out to meet her friends. Now, I have to admit, at first I thought this invite was about her gaining her friends approval of me - which is weird because she's friends with my friend who plays a good wing woman. I've even thought it may be her way of stepping out of the realm of shyness she hides behind because she has told me she tends to be shy when she's not around her friends. Regardless, you've opened my eyes up immensely and even though I consider myself to be a charmer, I think this is a gamble not worth taking. Any objections?
 

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Don't go near her friends yet. Trust me...I've learned the hard way. Stay on your "turf" where you can control the situation.
 

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trv26 said:
And add further complications? I prefer to keep it simple - asfew people as possible and ideally just me and her.
Why would that be complicated? I guess I just have a group of friends that are really good socially and always make it easy for me...
 

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ive done this before..
go out with her and her friends.
and spread your attention across her and her girlfriends.

and watch her try to win all ur attention..
and then go home and wake her neighbours up with the bed hinges..
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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