"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Decent OLD opening message?

IBreatheSpears

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I can't be fúcked to come up with "clever" openers (fúcking r/Tinder makes me cringe) so I'm just being straight up and slightly sexual. So is this a decent opener? This is on OKC but I'm gonna adapt it for tinder next time I get a match, make it a bit shorter. What do you think? Obviously it didn't work on this girl but it got her to be up-front rather than ignoring me. (I sent it to 10-20 chicks today, a few others viewed my profile but didn't reply.)
 

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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btownbuck2012

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In my opinion coming across too forward like that is perceived by alot of these women as being inexperienced. You're sucking the tension out of everything. The only time you can act like that, again based on what's worked for me in the past, is after sex. Before you have to let that tension build whether it's asking for a number, taking her out to dinner, suggesting a second date closer to your place, suggesting you go back to your place for a drink. Never explicitly ask for what you want until after sex or it sucks the fun out of everything.
 

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"hi how are you" That's all you need
Idk man, I've seen girls using OKC and they get a hundred of these messages and they just skim over when they see something like "hey what's up..." without opening the full message or looking at the guy's profile. Maybe they are judging from the profile picture, but it's pretty tiny in that view. You would have to be super-Chad to get responses from that. Maybe they were self-conscious with me being nearby and this isn't their typical behaviour but I doubt that.

ask them an interesting open ended question. Something more than "Hey sexy" because I feel like almost every guy with a pulse writes that.
Agreed! That's why I'm trying to be more interesting as well as filter out girls who want to play games. I should ask them something though, you're right, I'll have a think about it.

In my opinion coming across too forward like that is perceived by alot of these women as being inexperienced. You're sucking the tension out of everything. The only time you can act like that, again based on what's worked for me in the past, is after sex. Before you have to let that tension build whether it's asking for a number, taking her out to dinner, suggesting a second date closer to your place, suggesting you go back to your place for a drink. Never explicitly ask for what you want until after sex or it sucks the fun out of everything.
With this message I was trying to just be straight-up and basically just manly: forward about what I want and not afraid to ask for it. This is what seems to work for natural "alphas". But you're right, I should think about being more intriguing/challenging. Thanks.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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KingofPuss

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I think it was ok. Remove the "cute af" line, and delete everything after grab a couple of drinks. Women are not ever going to agree to make out with you on the first message you send them, unless you're brad pitt or some celebrity.

Replace the cute af line with something like "You seem friendly and fun". Keep it light and don't just say you like her for her looks
 

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I'll channel ESpi here. Pick their sluttiest photo and say you liked it and they seemed friendly and fun. That's sneaking in the sexy vibe without having to kill the mood.

And remember that most net chicks are crazy. And they come in runs. Some weeks you'll get no replies other weeks your inbox will explode.

And just to revisit the basics rotating your pics around will definitely increase your hits. Nobody reads profiles it's all about the pics
 

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"Hey how goes it? You have an interesting profile. If you'd like to shoot the sh!t message me before the 32nd of the month "
 

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If she has brown eyes:

"They say the eyes are a glass window into the soul. I can see into yours and I see brown. So Are you full of sh!t or wearing brown contacts? Hit me up if you'd like to chat!"
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I think your opener is to long. Come up with a funny, one sentence opener, that's a question. They will laugh and give you a answer to the question you asked.

I've experimented with lots of different openers on OLD and a funny question always gets the most responses. Unfortunately, I can't give you my opener. Good luck.
 

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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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xstang77

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There isn't really some magical line to open with, it's either gonna happen or not as long as you use somewhat common sense in the first message. Most of them are self entitled single moms so who wants to pull secondhand garbage anyway. I got bored last week and messaged one for fun to see if i could get a rise out of her and it worked, I ended up getting humor out of it too.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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