"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Dealing with tough, independent women
- Thread starter Matt Rogers
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Nutz
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Matt Rogers said:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/unemployment-busting-the-mating-market/
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200803/single-marry
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article7009556.ece
You need to remind yourself you're in the drivers seat, she's on borrowed time lookswise, and her career doesn't mean a thing to most men. Get the idea?
When women like this give guys a hard time, that's when you just stop, look them in the eye, and call them out on whatever it is they're doing. Usually it's a form of vicious ball busting.
"Wow, you're being pretty mean/rude/abrasive/etc. Did I do something to offend you?"
Then just let it simmer and build tension so she has to either realize she's being a cold biatch for no fault of your own and adjusts her behavior accordingly, or she brushes it off like it's no big deal and "that's just the way she is". If the former then you've broken through and are good to go. If the latter then stand up, say something along the lines of, "Yeah, this isn't going to work." and abruptly walk away.
Julius_Seizeher
Master Don Juan
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
princelydeeds
Master Don Juan
Your already all kinds of fcucked up! Eject son, EJECT!!!Matt Rogers said:
Matt Rogers
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I met her last night. She was very different from her online persona. Very quiet. Not at all argumentative or sarcastic. She seemed very nervous if anything. I had to ask a lot of questions to get her talking. Very closed body language.
She wasn't as good looking as her photos suggested. I wasn't that attracted to her.
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Living proof that bull**** baffles brain.....I had a funny experience Internet dating,tried to come to grips with a Lady who started her profile with "I am a Confidant Young Lady..."well the first meeting she flaked,but the second was quite amusing,I agreed to see her in a corner coffee shop in a busy street,sitting peacefully enjoying my cappacino and my mobile phone rang..."T...is that you sitting at the table with a blue shirt" "well yeah,where are you""I'm sitting a hundred yards up the road looking at you through binoculars"of course when I walked up the road she had done a runner...You have to laugh...
jophil28
Master Don Juan
Ha ha ha ha !Nutz said:
NUTZ, Scaramouche speaks West Coast Australian.
He means "she split" .
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
An interesting post,this Lady discusses herself in terms that might impress another Woman....A typical behavior from Girls who don't mix with Men...probably analogous to the emphasis on Macho attributes that many Men adopt?