mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
She has to help herself. Your input or contribution needs to be minimized .
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Dealing with a women when she is depressed.
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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Yes, this is sounding like the correct way of proceeding. Going through this previously when my dad had depression, I know now he had to figure it out on his own.
When you mention input or contribution, are you referring to my efforts to discuss/understand what she's going through? Or minimize the time I'll be spending with her?
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Just layback let her come to you if she wants to talk . There's alot of action she needs to take to start correcting the condition .
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
She shouldn't be drinking alcohol, or listening to or living in drama. This includes gossip .She needs to minimize negativity and stress. If she's overweight she needs to drop weight . The meds help for the short term, I'm not a fan of staying on them.
Yes, but the usual story with many women is that they refuse to get the professional therapy they need because they can’t admit there’s anything seriously wrong their past that they can’t deal with correctly.
As a result of that line of thinking they go see an agreeable GP and get scripts for lexapro and ambien and go long term…
The biggest eventual problem with that approach is if she ever does go off the meds, there’s hell to pay for everyone around her when all the artifically suppressed emotions resurface again…
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Right. She's going to keep lying to herself and her girlfriends will keep covering, keeping her mentally I'll.
People like this are hurting badly and for a temporary feeling of relief they empower themselves over a man or disrespecting or violating him . It never ends because they don't fix the problem .
Exactly right, had one get physical with me over nothing once to exert power……
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
And those emotions will surface. You need to take care of the problem. In my opinion most depression is completely fixable, they just have to change their lives a bit .
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Me too . They do it because they can. If you take it you just gave up half your balls .
No, it’s all mental and how they deal with past trauma. If stepdad raped you, you have to get professional help.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
I agree. Tons needs to be done.
Yes sir. A woman carrying around that much past baggage needs to repair herself first before she gets a live in or LTR…
Judging by your responses though, you probably already knew she was messed up and only wanted confirmation. Been there before…
Join her past man crowd, there were probably more than a few ahead of you…
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mrgoodstuff
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From your comments are you giving me input on inside info I'm unaware of . I wasn't talking about myself in the current . But I've had those experiences and my nature gives me interest in how things work and how their put together.
Folks that treat others like shyt usually feel real ****ty about themselves and they do that to make them feel a little better relative to you.
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She drinks wine casually and EVERYONE in her life has drama. Her friends actually compete to see who's trauma is worse and I could believe the amount of negativity and stress that surrounds her. Every new person I met that's in her life has got problems that she feels she needs to be involved in. Through good genetics, she appears to be in great shape (nice body) but she smokes, doesn't exercise and eats only when necessary.
To sum everything up, she's doing the exact opposite of your good suggestions.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Each of my suggestion would diminish stress a little bit and all together will remove most of the stress component.
She shouldn't be sharing emotions with folks who are so unstable.
She's addicted to the bullshyt. Take some folks out of it and they think their bored . Pick up a sport or hobbies that Spurs your passions Instead .