"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Daygame rejection "I don't give out my number to a cheap hobo like you"

Was that a **** test or disrespectful rejection?

  • **** Test

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • Disrespectful Rejection

    Votes: 15 93.8%

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Suspens

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I just approached this HB1000[looks/body] today around a downtown area and here is how our "conversation" went.

Me: Hey, give me your number so we could schedule a meetup.
HB: Excuse me, WHAT did you see in yourself which allowed you to come up with this delusional request?
Me: [ignored her BS] Or alternatively you can save my number so you could call me whenever you feel comfortable?
HB: I don't give out my number to a cheap hobo like you
Me: [serious tone] Your ****ing nose needs rhinoplasty, because you look like a sawfish
HB: [nervous mumbling tone] your face. (her grammar failed due to the severity of my comeback I think:lol:)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I just approached this HB1000[looks/body] today around a downtown area and here is how our "conversation" went.

Me: Hey, give me your number so we could schedule a meetup.
You build no comfort, no rapport. Even if you get numbers this way they will be useless.
HB:
Excuse me, WHAT did you see in yourself which allowed you to come up with this delusional request?
This is a person with serious ego issues and you dodged a bullet.
Me:
[ignored her BS] Or alternatively you can save my number so you could call me whenever you feel comfortable?
Great mindset on your part to stay unphased by her disrespect.
HB:
I don't give out my number to a cheap hobo like you
I find it interesting that she described you as "cheap" .. It says two things: 1. she has an agenda she is looking for a man with wealth.
2. I just find it odd that of all things she associated you with "cheapness" without even knowing you. Did you have on poor fitting clothes or old clothes?


Me: [serious tone] Your ****ing nose needs rhinoplasty, because you look like a sawfish
Childish on your part
HB:
[nervous mumbling tone] your face. (her grammar failed due to the severity of my comeback I think:lol:)
Childish on her part.
 

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In all seriousness, WTF did you expect when you came across like this to a hot chick?

Why not do something less assertive but still get your point across?

Me: Hey how are you this Thursday?
Her: Its Friday.
Me: I guess when you're as busy as I am, its easy to lose track. So is your Friday better than your Thursday?
Her: Yeah, at least its almost the weekend.
Me: Yes it is. Any big plans or anything exciting going on this weekend, since it is almost here now that its actually Friday.....
Her: Yeah I am going out with some friends tonight and blah blah blah....
Me: Hey I have to run but i would like to continue this convo later. Why dont you thrown your number in my phone and we can catch up when I get my bearings straight on what day it is lol.
 

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Excuse me, WHAT did you see inyourself which allowed you to come up with this delusional request?

Your reply -- wink smile, you take care then.

Then you next her. No more dialogue with her ever again
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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@cola has been gone too long. He is right, you didn't build rapport... But she also didn't like you, even if you had built rapport you likely would have been rejected anyway, but she may have been less rude.
 

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Definitely got to give you props for having the balls to do this, regardless of the outcome. Nice.
Right? You have to be willing to burn some down now and again.

I think there's always a tendency to look at the one interaction the OP presents here on SS and assume it's entirely representative of who he is, where his game is at.

Of course it's not. People aren't posting about the interactions that go textbook smooth. Who wants to hear about that? We post about the aberrations because they're interesting. We just need to keep in mind that's what they are before we go sh!tting all over the OP.

And you know who's doing most of the sh!tting? Guys who never, ever post about their own fvck ups.
 

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She didn't like your ass that's for sure, she told you that in her first sentance. She also thought you're high as a kite going for number without establishing rapport and introducing yourself.
 
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Her: "I don't give my number to cheap hoboes like you."

You: "Oh? So, what kind of cheap hoboes DO you give your number to?"
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Sounds like she didn't see you as on her level. Whether it be on the attraction scale or status. If you want future success with hb1000 women you have to present yourself as on or above her level. This is done through a prime appearance and status symbols.

Her cheap hobo comment is an observation -- Even if it's a stuck up bítchy comment. These women are more accessible through social circles.
 

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Rapport is irrelevant. Nothing you said wouldd have made a difference. She wasn't interested.

"Rapport" really is probing to see if she has any buying signals. An interested woman doesn't really care what you say, so long as you aren't disrespectful and you ask for the number.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I just approached this HB1000[looks/body] today around a downtown area and here is how our "conversation" went.

Me: Hey, give me your number so we could schedule a meetup.
HB: Excuse me, WHAT did you see in yourself which allowed you to come up with this delusional request?
Me: [ignored her BS] Or alternatively you can save my number so you could call me whenever you feel comfortable?
HB: I don't give out my number to a cheap hobo like you
Me: [serious tone] Your ****ing nose needs rhinoplasty, because you look like a sawfish
HB: [nervous mumbling tone] your face. (her grammar failed due to the severity of my comeback I think:lol:)
You cold approached a 10/10 and said 'give me your number?'
You told her 'you freaking nose needs rhinoplasty?'

Yeah bro you are trolling or this is made up for you to sit back and get a kick out of all the reactions.
 

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You cold approached a 10/10 and said 'give me your number?'
You told her 'you freaking nose needs rhinoplasty?'

Yeah bro you are trolling or this is made up for you to sit back and get a kick out of all the reactions.
Yo jealous bro?

Sounds like she didn't see you as on her level. Whether it be on the attraction scale or status.
My observation is that she was from a poverty-stricken family and finding a financial-saviour is her #1 priority. Another possibility is that she is already in a relationship with a weak manipulative beta, and for whatever reason she can't get out of this relationship, so she vents out the negativity by burning stranger guys who approach her.


Excuse me, WHAT did you see inyourself which allowed you to come up with this delusional request?

Your reply -- wink smile, you take care then.

Then you next her. No more dialogue with her ever again
Wouldn't just leaving inflate her EGO even further?

I have a hard time with these kinds of "prepared" conversations. If some random stranger approaches a girl, during the day, no matter what he talks about, she knows he wants to F her in every hole possible. So asking about the calendar and weather seems pretty in-genuine to me.
 

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You cold approached a 10/10 and said 'give me your number?'
You told her 'you freaking nose needs rhinoplasty?'

Yeah bro you are trolling or this is made up for you to sit back and get a kick out of all the reactions.
Yo jealous bro?

Sounds like she didn't see you as on her level. Whether it be on the attraction scale or status.
My observation is that she was from a poverty-stricken family and finding a financial-saviour is her #1 priority. Another possibility is that she is already in a relationship with a weak manipulative beta, and for whatever reason she can't get out of this relationship, so she vents out the negativity by burning stranger guys who approach her.


Excuse me, WHAT did you see inyourself which allowed you to come up with this delusional request?

Your reply -- wink smile, you take care then.

Then you next her. No more dialogue with her ever again
Wouldn't just leaving inflate her EGO even further?

I have a hard time with these kinds of "prepared" conversations. If some random stranger approaches a girl, during the day, no matter what he talks about, she knows he wants to F her in every hole possible. So asking about the calendar and weather seems pretty in-genuine to me.


I find it interesting that she described you as "cheap" .. It says two things: 1. she has an agenda she is looking for a man with wealth.
2. I just find it odd that of all things she associated you with "cheapness" without even knowing you. Did you have on poor fitting clothes or old clothes?
My face was unshaven and my T-Shirt was loose and had washed out colors.


F her... And who uses the term "hobo" anymore ?
I just used an equivalent term when translating my convo. (I am from a non-enlish speaking area)
 

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Nah bro. Not really jealous of you insulting a girls appearance because they refused to go out with you.
Actually she insulted him, I don't blame him for shooting back. Though, I think he could of nixed the rhinoplasty part. Whole point was to get her interested, and one upping her isn't going to do the trick.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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