"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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j0n024

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I need some help on daygame, anyone have any tips or articles on what to do during day game?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What exactly do you mean? Places to go during the day, approaches, or what?
 

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Yes...not places to go because I already go but how do you interact with them.
I mean like how do you approach and start to up the IL? To me it feels like I rush it and I mess up I barely get any numbers from day game but would like to get more .....:( because I'm not old enough to go to clubs yet...without having to pay like 25 bucks for the cover.
 

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Live in your wold..


Try to trully understand what that means. Your world, your reality..


As you go about your day, you will come across women, and men.. Practise, and take one step at a time.. Men could be useful too, such as approaching, and eye contact.. Special type of alpha male eye contact, and approaching to be friend, no sexy time..

Take it one step at a time.. - after you compfortable with eye contact, you can crack a smile, after you perfected smile, you can say hi.. etc, etc..
 

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Yes I know I'm not some new kid , I can hold eye contact and go up to women, I can smile and say hi I just need a little bit refinement in my game of day(lol). Recently I had an epiphany of just living my life when I started to have a lack of openings from women and I broke down somewhat and become discouraged....then I just had fun and came right back. I just need to know some tips on how to get more convo time without looking like an AFC , how would I do that....
PS: your no sexy time comment was funny becasue I didnt understand what you meant lol.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Let's say your at a book store. You see some HB reading a book/magazine. You walk towards her. You say Hi hows it going. She responds. You ask her what she is reading. You make some comments. Then, you move onto what she likes to do for fun out here. You agree with some of the things. Then you say hey i gotta run but, i enjoyed talking to you, maybe we can get together for lunch whats your number... and blah blah blah. Find something in her immediate area and comment something about it and take it from there. A shirt she is wearing, her purse, her hair...
 

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Hmm so it doesnt have to be a 10min convo? That was the problem I had I always thought I was asking to fast for the number but you just have to talk for a 3min's?
 

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you have to act like you are in a hurry or she will wonder why you are asking so fast. if you are in a hurry but regret that you couldnt talk more to her, she will give her number for that reason.
 

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Mission 1- "Whats up my name is X , had to meet you" do 50 approaches like this and just let it flow from there.
 

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Only thing I see different in daygame is that the energy level isn't as high as say a club so it is much easier to hook. Overall daygame is easier but seems harder if you are worried about the people around you, the situation your in, etc.

Just like any other set just go in offer value, escalate, vibe, etc. If you have time try to venue change her and even go on a instadate.

I don't recommend you go for quick #s unless you are actually in a rush because all a # actually is, is an extension to continue the interaction another time. So if you just go in to get the # its a waste because she is more likely to flake as opposed to her being attracted, having a good time with you, even went to a different venue with you, ate some food, kissed, and now she gave you her #. She is more likely to pick up the phone.

In every set you should always move it as far as it can go and if logistics are bad (She's with a client, your late for work, etc) then you'd have to go for the # because the logistics are bad right now. But don't go in a set for just the sake of getting a # because #s are BS, its just an extension to interact.

So if you have the time to interact with her right then and there you might as well, instead of getting her # then you have to speak on the phone and try to get her to meetup with you, when the first day you met her you were seeing each other face to face, its like you sort of backtracked by going on the phone only to try and meet up again.

Another thing I notice is that it's harder to hook a chick in the daytime than in the nighttime, but one thing for sure is when it hooks, it hooks as opposed to some of the ADD behavior party chicks have lol.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Snow Plowman said:
Only thing I see different in daygame is that the energy level isn't as high as say a club so it is much easier to hook. Overall daygame is easier but seems harder if you are worried about the people around you, the situation your in, etc.

Just like any other set just go in offer value, escalate, vibe, etc. If you have time try to venue change her and even go on a instadate.

I don't recommend you go for quick #s unless you are actually in a rush because all a # actually is, is an extension to continue the interaction another time. So if you just go in to get the # its a waste because she is more likely to flake as opposed to her being attracted, having a good time with you, even went to a different venue with you, ate some food, kissed, and now she gave you her #. She is more likely to pick up the phone.

In every set you should always move it as far as it can go and if logistics are bad (She's with a client, your late for work, etc) then you'd have to go for the # because the logistics are bad right now. But don't go in a set for just the sake of getting a # because #s are BS, its just an extension to interact.

So if you have the time to interact with her right then and there you might as well, instead of getting her # then you have to speak on the phone and try to get her to meetup with you, when the first day you met her you were seeing each other face to face, its like you sort of backtracked by going on the phone only to try and meet up again.

Another thing I notice is that it's harder to hook a chick in the daytime than in the nighttime, but one thing for sure is when it hooks, it hooks as opposed to some of the ADD behavior party chicks have lol.
Thats gold. I've said it a few times, quick number closes are nothing and get you no where more often than not. I never have girls flake on me. Ever. I honestly can't remember the last time it happened. Always go for the venue change during the day. Always. If you don't have time, why bother? I guess if you see a cute girl sitting there but have no time and wanna roll the dice it's no big deal but you need to build some value. Otherwise you expect to pretty much re cold approach her over the phone when you call. It's the same reason I kiss close every girl at the bar and try to go home with them: If she won't go along for the venue change, what the hell makes you think she'll go on a date with you at a later time when you call? Unless she's legitimately busy I guess. The name of the game is disqualifying the girls who won't work out before you waste any time on them that you don't have to. If everyone did this we wouldn't have to sit through all the posts of everyone saying how well they did on their approach, how high her IL's were but she didn't answer the call or flaked out on the date.
 

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How do you approach during the day, without looking like a creep?
 

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Read The R U Creepy 2.0 Post
 

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Since he started this thread, I believe, Jon024 has become the master day game guy on this board. I think he should compile everything he's learned on a post on here.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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There are better people on here that can probably give you a better answer but I will tell you what I do to get success.

First rule about day game.....

You will be rejected and I cant stress that enough...if you dont think you can handle being rejected multiple times in a row and there is no shame in that then maybe you should do something else until you feel confident enough to do day game.

For me the best approaches arent something that comes from canned lines, usually the best approaches for me are unexpected , unprepared stuff that I got on the spot.

Usually you can get a reaction by going in CALM and collected and just saying "Hi," Or "Hey," and you can go from there. Usually I say what my intention are right from the start ...I just go up to them and tell them I thought they were cute and wanted to get to know them and it has a pretty good success rate for me.

I have found that most OLDER women LOVE the day game approach from younger guys cause they feel special that a younger guy just came up to them and called them cute and is hitting on them in BROAD daylight (lol) whereas the younger crowd see it as a joke since they think that the only way to hook up is through social-networks.

The 2nd most important thing you have to do is be C-A-L-M . You have to be relaxed before you go up to them and you have to be relaxed talking to them and you have to be relaxed leaving them.

You cant just walk up to a girl shaking like a leaf or stuttering or mumbling and expect to get a good interaction. IF you can be relaxed and think to yourself "Hey it's just a girl and I'm BETTER then her."

Now lots of people will probably not like what I just said right there but if you have that mindset where you think your better then the girl your going to talk to I GUARANTEE you that you wont be as nervous walking up to any girl for that matter.

If you can be confident in yourself and not ashamed that your going up to a girl/women in public and start talking to them the you will have success.

Then there is the APOC opener which takes a little refinement but gets the job done faster and it's straight to the point which I LOVE since I dont feel like talking for 10 minutes just to get them in bed.

To put it simply since most people wont read this whole damn post.....

You need to be able to be rejected and not have your feelings hurt.
You need to be confident enough to walk up to any girl.
You need to be confident in your OWN abilities.
You need to learn from your mistakes.

But if any other people have anymore tips then I would be glad to hear them since I am still learning myself.
 

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yo jon, im interested in seeing what you look like. i know you posted pictures before but they aren't accessible anymore. your probably the most successful field reporter here on ss so far.
 

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j0n024 said:
There are better people on here that can probably give you a better answer but I will tell you what I do to get success.

First rule about day game.....

You will be rejected and I cant stress that enough...if you dont think you can handle being rejected multiple times in a row and there is no shame in that then maybe you should do something else until you feel confident enough to do day game.

For me the best approaches arent something that comes from canned lines, usually the best approaches for me are unexpected , unprepared stuff that I got on the spot.

Usually you can get a reaction by going in CALM and collected and just saying "Hi," Or "Hey," and you can go from there. Usually I say what my intention are right from the start ...I just go up to them and tell them I thought they were cute and wanted to get to know them and it has a pretty good success rate for me.

I have found that most OLDER women LOVE the day game approach from younger guys cause they feel special that a younger guy just came up to them and called them cute and is hitting on them in BROAD daylight (lol) whereas the younger crowd see it as a joke since they think that the only way to hook up is through social-networks.

The 2nd most important thing you have to do is be C-A-L-M . You have to be relaxed before you go up to them and you have to be relaxed talking to them and you have to be relaxed leaving them.

You cant just walk up to a girl shaking like a leaf or stuttering or mumbling and expect to get a good interaction. IF you can be relaxed and think to yourself "Hey it's just a girl and I'm BETTER then her."

Now lots of people will probably not like what I just said right there but if you have that mindset where you think your better then the girl your going to talk to I GUARANTEE you that you wont be as nervous walking up to any girl for that matter.

If you can be confident in yourself and not ashamed that your going up to a girl/women in public and start talking to them the you will have success.

Then there is the APOC opener which takes a little refinement but gets the job done faster and it's straight to the point which I LOVE since I dont feel like talking for 10 minutes just to get them in bed.

To put it simply since most people wont read this whole damn post.....

You need to be able to be rejected and not have your feelings hurt.
You need to be confident enough to walk up to any girl.
You need to be confident in your OWN abilities.
You need to learn from your mistakes.

But if any other people have anymore tips then I would be glad to hear them since I am still learning myself.
Thanks man, that's pretty much what I figured. it just feels awkward stopping girls any place other than abrs and clubs.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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