Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Thats gold. I've said it a few times, quick number closes are nothing and get you no where more often than not. I never have girls flake on me. Ever. I honestly can't remember the last time it happened. Always go for the venue change during the day. Always. If you don't have time, why bother? I guess if you see a cute girl sitting there but have no time and wanna roll the dice it's no big deal but you need to build some value. Otherwise you expect to pretty much re cold approach her over the phone when you call. It's the same reason I kiss close every girl at the bar and try to go home with them: If she won't go along for the venue change, what the hell makes you think she'll go on a date with you at a later time when you call? Unless she's legitimately busy I guess. The name of the game is disqualifying the girls who won't work out before you waste any time on them that you don't have to. If everyone did this we wouldn't have to sit through all the posts of everyone saying how well they did on their approach, how high her IL's were but she didn't answer the call or flaked out on the date.Snow Plowman said:Only thing I see different in daygame is that the energy level isn't as high as say a club so it is much easier to hook. Overall daygame is easier but seems harder if you are worried about the people around you, the situation your in, etc.
Just like any other set just go in offer value, escalate, vibe, etc. If you have time try to venue change her and even go on a instadate.
I don't recommend you go for quick #s unless you are actually in a rush because all a # actually is, is an extension to continue the interaction another time. So if you just go in to get the # its a waste because she is more likely to flake as opposed to her being attracted, having a good time with you, even went to a different venue with you, ate some food, kissed, and now she gave you her #. She is more likely to pick up the phone.
In every set you should always move it as far as it can go and if logistics are bad (She's with a client, your late for work, etc) then you'd have to go for the # because the logistics are bad right now. But don't go in a set for just the sake of getting a # because #s are BS, its just an extension to interact.
So if you have the time to interact with her right then and there you might as well, instead of getting her # then you have to speak on the phone and try to get her to meetup with you, when the first day you met her you were seeing each other face to face, its like you sort of backtracked by going on the phone only to try and meet up again.
Another thing I notice is that it's harder to hook a chick in the daytime than in the nighttime, but one thing for sure is when it hooks, it hooks as opposed to some of the ADD behavior party chicks have lol.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Thanks man, that's pretty much what I figured. it just feels awkward stopping girls any place other than abrs and clubs.j0n024 said:There are better people on here that can probably give you a better answer but I will tell you what I do to get success.
First rule about day game.....
You will be rejected and I cant stress that enough...if you dont think you can handle being rejected multiple times in a row and there is no shame in that then maybe you should do something else until you feel confident enough to do day game.
For me the best approaches arent something that comes from canned lines, usually the best approaches for me are unexpected , unprepared stuff that I got on the spot.
Usually you can get a reaction by going in CALM and collected and just saying "Hi," Or "Hey," and you can go from there. Usually I say what my intention are right from the start ...I just go up to them and tell them I thought they were cute and wanted to get to know them and it has a pretty good success rate for me.
I have found that most OLDER women LOVE the day game approach from younger guys cause they feel special that a younger guy just came up to them and called them cute and is hitting on them in BROAD daylight (lol) whereas the younger crowd see it as a joke since they think that the only way to hook up is through social-networks.
The 2nd most important thing you have to do is be C-A-L-M . You have to be relaxed before you go up to them and you have to be relaxed talking to them and you have to be relaxed leaving them.
You cant just walk up to a girl shaking like a leaf or stuttering or mumbling and expect to get a good interaction. IF you can be relaxed and think to yourself "Hey it's just a girl and I'm BETTER then her."
Now lots of people will probably not like what I just said right there but if you have that mindset where you think your better then the girl your going to talk to I GUARANTEE you that you wont be as nervous walking up to any girl for that matter.
If you can be confident in yourself and not ashamed that your going up to a girl/women in public and start talking to them the you will have success.
Then there is the APOC opener which takes a little refinement but gets the job done faster and it's straight to the point which I LOVE since I dont feel like talking for 10 minutes just to get them in bed.
To put it simply since most people wont read this whole damn post.....
You need to be able to be rejected and not have your feelings hurt.
You need to be confident enough to walk up to any girl.
You need to be confident in your OWN abilities.
You need to learn from your mistakes.
But if any other people have anymore tips then I would be glad to hear them since I am still learning myself.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.