"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I listened to the CDs of the Advanced Series and learned more in them than I am learning in college. If you have listened to them, I'm wondering what others are thinking about them.

Also, I was thinking of getting the ebook by him but was wondering if it is much different than the Advanced Series. I don't want to buy the same thing twice.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I wouldn't buy the ebook if you've listened to the series.

I wouldn't BUY anything from him. The guy charges too much. I'd download it.
 

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David D was the first PUA I ever read. There's a lot of other ones I like better. David D doesn't really go into the dynamics of ****y/funny as much as I like him too. He expresses (very vaguely) that if you're too ****y, women will see you as insecure. He doesn't explain where to draw the line.

The Advanced Series has some good material. There's a lot of CnF lines that are great for framing and reframing social situations. Did you see the one with Sean Stephenson, that three feet tall guy? That floored me.

Honestly though, David D is more of a salesman than a PUA. I like Mystery, Juggler, and Gunwitch more than the other methods.
 

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There is only one guy that is worth checking out.

David X
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The Deacon said:
David D was the first PUA I ever read. There's a lot of other ones I like better. David D doesn't really go into the dynamics of ****y/funny as much as I like him too. He expresses (very vaguely) that if you're too ****y, women will see you as insecure. He doesn't explain where to draw the line.
I think it's cos C&F is not something that can be well analysed, you gotta find the FEEL of it. DD does a pretty good job as faras that's concerned. You don't need to draw a line, you gotta gravetate towards the right inner attitude. He's about inner game more than anything. Unless you wanna be a robot, that's how it should be.
 

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Gubby said:
I think it's cos C&F is not something that can be well analysed, you gotta find the FEEL of it. DD does a pretty good job as faras that's concerned. You don't need to draw a line, you gotta gravetate towards the right inner attitude. He's about inner game more than anything. Unless you wanna be a robot, that's how it should be.
Although DD is more about marketing than anything else, he's got some good points.

The thing with C&F is that it's supposed to put the b!tch back in her place.

The only problem is that women nowadays don't give a sh!t if some dude used C&F on her because she has 10 other guys lined up that are willing to do anything for her.

C&F is only good as an ice breaker.
 

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Naw, it's a pointer to the right attitude. Like an alpha male type attitude. When a guy doesn't take women seriously, treats em like they were little girls, and is totally sure of the fact that he can get sex, he'll screw about with them just for fun.

C&F is just the ou'tward sign of a good inner game.
 

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I think it's cos C&F is not something that can be well analysed, you gotta find the FEEL of it.
I agree with this. And the line is gonna differ depending on the girl to some extent. I think the two keys (aside from the obvious, like not over doing it) are:

1) Learning to gauge her reaction, and regroup when you think you may have stepped over the line or are tap dancing on it. It's usually not a big deal if you do, just pull back and recalibrate.

2) Mix it in with real, normal conversation. Think of it like an oreo cookie.. c/f is the cookie ends, and normal every day conversation is the filling. No one wants to eat filling all the time-that's boring. But they don't want to eat just the ends either (i.e. non stop c/f)

C/F should spice up the conversation or your story telling. Sprinkle it here and there, but there should be way more depth to you than just being c/f.


The thing with C&F is that it's supposed to put the b!tch back in her place.
Nah, not really. Negs and push/pull are more for that. C/F is about being confident and amusing at the same time, just like the phrase implies.
 

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Is it just me or does the mystery method just seem to be telling stories and expanding upon them to get interest?

But I like DD. He basically reworks your inner game and helps you become more alpha. He tells you how to handle women with his C&F. He doesn't say to use it consistently but with C&F you are less likely to act like an AFC (or Wuss as he calls it). I learned most of the AFC stuff from his book. I never got the series because it costs too much. The book is just $20 so I didn't care.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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You should definitely read DD's material. The free email newsletters from DD were gold and so is his book. Sure you can go into mystery method right away but I think to make it work better you should have that change of attitude that DD's work can help you get.
 
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