David DeAngelo's Double Your Dating

[Maeisgood]

I listened to the CDs of the Advanced Series and learned more in them than I am learning in college. If you have listened to them, I'm wondering what others are thinking about them.

Also, I was thinking of getting the ebook by him but was wondering if it is much different than the Advanced Series. I don't want to buy the same thing twice.

 

[sosilky]

I sent you a PM regarding the book and disks

 

[Gubby]

I wouldn't buy the ebook if you've listened to the series.

I wouldn't BUY anything from him. The guy charges too much. I'd download it.

 

[The Deacon]

David D was the first PUA I ever read. There's a lot of other ones I like better. David D doesn't really go into the dynamics of ****y/funny as much as I like him too. He expresses (very vaguely) that if you're too ****y, women will see you as insecure. He doesn't explain where to draw the line.

The Advanced Series has some good material. There's a lot of CnF lines that are great for framing and reframing social situations. Did you see the one with Sean Stephenson, that three feet tall guy? That floored me.

Honestly though, David D is more of a salesman than a PUA. I like Mystery, Juggler, and Gunwitch more than the other methods.

 

[ChrizZ]

There is only one guy that is worth checking out.

David X

 

[Gubby]

David D was the first PUA I ever read. There's a lot of other ones I like better. David D doesn't really go into the dynamics of ****y/funny as much as I like him too. He expresses (very vaguely) that if you're too ****y, women will see you as insecure. He doesn't explain where to draw the line.

I think it's cos C&F is not something that can be well analysed, you gotta find the FEEL of it. DD does a pretty good job as faras that's concerned. You don't need to draw a line, you gotta gravetate towards the right inner attitude. He's about inner game more than anything. Unless you wanna be a robot, that's how it should be.

 

[ChrizZ]

I think it's cos C&F is not something that can be well analysed, you gotta find the FEEL of it. DD does a pretty good job as faras that's concerned. You don't need to draw a line, you gotta gravetate towards the right inner attitude. He's about inner game more than anything. Unless you wanna be a robot, that's how it should be.

Although DD is more about marketing than anything else, he's got some good points.

The thing with C&F is that it's supposed to put the b!tch back in her place.

The only problem is that women nowadays don't give a sh!t if some dude used C&F on her because she has 10 other guys lined up that are willing to do anything for her.

C&F is only good as an ice breaker.

 

[Gubby]

Naw, it's a pointer to the right attitude. Like an alpha male type attitude. When a guy doesn't take women seriously, treats em like they were little girls, and is totally sure of the fact that he can get sex, he'll screw about with them just for fun.

C&F is just the ou'tward sign of a good inner game.

 

[MotownMack]

I think it's cos C&F is not something that can be well analysed, you gotta find the FEEL of it.

I agree with this. And the line is gonna differ depending on the girl to some extent. I think the two keys (aside from the obvious, like not over doing it) are:

1) Learning to gauge her reaction, and regroup when you think you may have stepped over the line or are tap dancing on it. It's usually not a big deal if you do, just pull back and recalibrate.

2) Mix it in with real, normal conversation. Think of it like an oreo cookie.. c/f is the cookie ends, and normal every day conversation is the filling. No one wants to eat filling all the time-that's boring. But they don't want to eat just the ends either (i.e. non stop c/f)

C/F should spice up the conversation or your story telling. Sprinkle it here and there, but there should be way more depth to you than just being c/f.

The thing with C&F is that it's supposed to put the b!tch back in her place.

Nah, not really. Negs and push/pull are more for that. C/F is about being confident and amusing at the same time, just like the phrase implies.

 

[ezily]

Is it just me or does the mystery method just seem to be telling stories and expanding upon them to get interest?

But I like DD. He basically reworks your inner game and helps you become more alpha. He tells you how to handle women with his C&F. He doesn't say to use it consistently but with C&F you are less likely to act like an AFC (or Wuss as he calls it). I learned most of the AFC stuff from his book. I never got the series because it costs too much. The book is just $20 so I didn't care.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

You should definitely read DD's material. The free email newsletters from DD were gold and so is his book. Sure you can go into mystery method right away but I think to make it work better you should have that change of attitude that DD's work can help you get.