Bonhomme
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Whatever happened to "The worst people talk about other people, better people talk about things, and the best discuss ideas?"
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
David Deangelo's "conversation topics for dates" tip
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Mr.Positive
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Hey, great saying Bonhomme!!
It reminds us of the biggest red flag of all..when women trash talk other people. What people say about others, says everything IMO.
It reminds us of the biggest red flag of all..when women trash talk other people. What people say about others, says everything IMO.
Rollo Tomassi
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A person who talks about other people is a gossip. A person who talks about themselves is an egoist. But the person who can get another to talk about themselves is an amazing conversationalist.
The recommendation I recall from reading "How to win friends and Influence People" for conversation topic is to talk about, be interested in, and ask questions about the other person. Most people's #1 interest is themselves. You can spend the entire time talking about the other person and they will later dub you as a great conversationalist.
Bonhomme
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Right on, Rollo and azanon.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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Yeah, um, David DeAngelo didn't come up with that.
Ever onward
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Bonhomme isn't claiming that David D. came up with that idea. What Bonhomme is referring to is David D's conversational date tip about talking about and busting on other people who are nearby.
Bonhomme is saying "what's up with David D's philosophy? Whatever happened to the mindset that says "The worst people talk about other people, better people talk about things, and the best discuss ideas?"
Bonhomme is saying "what's up with David D's philosophy? Whatever happened to the mindset that says "The worst people talk about other people, better people talk about things, and the best discuss ideas?"
Bonhomme
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Thanks for posting reference, lildevil. Fran Lebowitz came up with some damn good ones.
Eaxctly, Ever_onward. Reading that "tip" got me thinking I'd not even want a fk-buddy who was into that sort of conversation. Better to just skip the conversation altogether, and get right down to action. Come to think of it, it often is anyway.
Eaxctly, Ever_onward. Reading that "tip" got me thinking I'd not even want a fk-buddy who was into that sort of conversation. Better to just skip the conversation altogether, and get right down to action. Come to think of it, it often is anyway.
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Anyone know any good sources on how to acquire this skill?Rollo Tomassi said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.