"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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David Deangelo's "conversation topics for dates" tip

Bonhomme

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Whatever happened to "The worst people talk about other people, better people talk about things, and the best discuss ideas?"
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Hey, great saying Bonhomme!!:up:

It reminds us of the biggest red flag of all..when women trash talk other people. What people say about others, says everything IMO.
 

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A person who talks about other people is a gossip. A person who talks about themselves is an egoist. But the person who can get another to talk about themselves is an amazing conversationalist.
 

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The recommendation I recall from reading "How to win friends and Influence People" for conversation topic is to talk about, be interested in, and ask questions about the other person. Most people's #1 interest is themselves. You can spend the entire time talking about the other person and they will later dub you as a great conversationalist.
 

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Right on, Rollo and azanon.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Master Bates said:
Yeah, um, David DeAngelo didn't come up with that.
seconded

Great people talk about ideas, average people talk about things, and small people talk about others

is by Fran Lebowitz
 

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Bonhomme isn't claiming that David D. came up with that idea. What Bonhomme is referring to is David D's conversational date tip about talking about and busting on other people who are nearby.

Bonhomme is saying "what's up with David D's philosophy? Whatever happened to the mindset that says "The worst people talk about other people, better people talk about things, and the best discuss ideas?"
 

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Thanks for posting reference, lildevil. Fran Lebowitz came up with some damn good ones.

Eaxctly, Ever_onward. Reading that "tip" got me thinking I'd not even want a fk-buddy who was into that sort of conversation. Better to just skip the conversation altogether, and get right down to action. Come to think of it, it often is anyway.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
A person who talks about other people is a gossip. A person who talks about themselves is an egoist. But the person who can get another to talk about themselves is an amazing conversationalist.
Anyone know any good sources on how to acquire this skill?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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^^

Dale Carnegie: How to win friends and influence people.
 
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