"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What are your thoughts on dating an unhappy woman? Let's say a woman with alot of baggage who is yearning for something good to happen to her (a.k.a. a guy to come into her life and save her. I guess "captain save a ho" is a fitting term here.) In my opinion, these type of people go through a phase, maybe for several months, where they believe this person is making them so happy and filling them up/"completing" them. But after this phase, they realize they're ultimately still not happy and pull away...and at some point, sabotage the relationship. Thoughts?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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cityboy989 said:
What are your thoughts on dating an unhappy woman? Let's say a woman with alot of baggage who is yearning for something good to happen to her (a.k.a. a guy to come into her life and save her. I guess "captain save a ho" is a fitting term here.) In my opinion, these type of people go through a phase, maybe for several months, where they believe this person is making them so happy and filling them up/"completing" them. But after this phase, they realize they're ultimately still not happy and pull away...and at some point, sabotage the relationship. Thoughts?
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Ivar, aka Mikeman, aka pelvischestly, is that you?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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cityboy989 said:
What are your thoughts on dating an unhappy woman? Let's say a woman with alot of baggage who is yearning for something good to happen to her (a.k.a. a guy to come into her life and save her. I guess "captain save a ho" is a fitting term here.) In my opinion, these type of people go through a phase, maybe for several months, where they believe this person is making them so happy and filling them up/"completing" them. But after this phase, they realize they're ultimately still not happy and pull away...and at some point, sabotage the relationship. Thoughts?
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Just say no.
 
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Amante Silvestre said:
There's no worse position to be in than being the source and center of someone else's happiness. Women like this will spiral into a state of depression simply because you didn't respond to their text message within 10 minutes. F*ck that.
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How's that bad? You basically control her at that point. And as long as you don't care about her, then she will always be coming back to you.
 
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Dating? No. Hell no.

Spinning? Sure, at your own risk.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Unhappy women don't have to be clingy women who get mad if you don't respond in a few minutes. I'm speaking more on women who use guys short-term (several months to a year) to fill a void.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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randalljohnson said:
No, unhappy in life. Meaning unhappy when they're single also.
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What bigneil is pointing out is they will ALSO be unhappy with you. And when they are high maintenence like that you being with them gives them someone to blame.

Your fault or not. They will blame you.
 
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cityboy989 said:
What are your thoughts on dating an unhappy woman? Let's say a woman with alot of baggage who is yearning for something good to happen to her (a.k.a. a guy to come into her life and save her. I guess "captain save a ho" is a fitting term here.) In my opinion, these type of people go through a phase, maybe for several months, where they believe this person is making them so happy and filling them up/"completing" them. But after this phase, they realize they're ultimately still not happy and pull away...and at some point, sabotage the relationship. Thoughts?
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Avoid like the plague.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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