"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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phoenix_rising

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Hi all,

If you had sex with a girl after a few dates, is the girl gonna think that you become her bf just because you had sex with her?

~pr
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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romangod

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phoenix_rising said:
Hi all,

If you had sex with a girl after a few dates, is the girl gonna think that you become her bf just because you had sex with her?

~pr



Yes.


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azanon

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phoenix_rising said:
Hi all,

If you had sex with a girl after a few dates, is the girl gonna think that you become her bf just because you had sex with her?

~pr
Its very possible, but ultimately its depends on the girl. Plenty of women too have a ONS mindset too (or, like to play the field with multiple men). Don't believe me, ask LMS.
 

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I hear a lot of you talk about spinning plates. So the girl you had sex with think you become her bf. So then you go out and spin more plates and have sex with some other girl. Wouldn't that make you a cheater?
 

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You gotta be careful of that "implied boyfriend" thing. If that isn't what you want you have to somehow make it known cause chicks will assume things and then before you know it you DO have a g/f.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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STR8UP said:
You gotta be careful of that "implied boyfriend" thing. If that isn't what you want you have to somehow make it known cause chicks will assume things and then before you know it you DO have a g/f.
Good advice. After you have sex you might in the next few days want to communicate your expectations. Every situation is different and needs to be felt out.
 

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phoenix_rising said:
I hear a lot of you talk about spinning plates. So the girl you had sex with think you become her bf. So then you go out and spin more plates and have sex with some other girl. Wouldn't that make you a cheater?
I don't think so. If you haven't had "the talk" your pretty much free to see other people. It might even be a good idea to give her a heads up early on and tell her that you are seeing other people. That way she can't accuse you of cheating.
 

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Maxtro's above post is what I meant by communicating your expectations early on.
 
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