"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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phoenix_rising

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Hi all,

If you had sex with a girl after a few dates, is the girl gonna think that you become her bf just because you had sex with her?

~pr
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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romangod

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phoenix_rising said:
Hi all,

If you had sex with a girl after a few dates, is the girl gonna think that you become her bf just because you had sex with her?

~pr



Yes.


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azanon

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phoenix_rising said:
Hi all,

If you had sex with a girl after a few dates, is the girl gonna think that you become her bf just because you had sex with her?

~pr
Its very possible, but ultimately its depends on the girl. Plenty of women too have a ONS mindset too (or, like to play the field with multiple men). Don't believe me, ask LMS.
 

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I hear a lot of you talk about spinning plates. So the girl you had sex with think you become her bf. So then you go out and spin more plates and have sex with some other girl. Wouldn't that make you a cheater?
 

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You gotta be careful of that "implied boyfriend" thing. If that isn't what you want you have to somehow make it known cause chicks will assume things and then before you know it you DO have a g/f.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Charm

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STR8UP said:
You gotta be careful of that "implied boyfriend" thing. If that isn't what you want you have to somehow make it known cause chicks will assume things and then before you know it you DO have a g/f.
Good advice. After you have sex you might in the next few days want to communicate your expectations. Every situation is different and needs to be felt out.
 

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phoenix_rising said:
I hear a lot of you talk about spinning plates. So the girl you had sex with think you become her bf. So then you go out and spin more plates and have sex with some other girl. Wouldn't that make you a cheater?
I don't think so. If you haven't had "the talk" your pretty much free to see other people. It might even be a good idea to give her a heads up early on and tell her that you are seeing other people. That way she can't accuse you of cheating.
 

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Maxtro's above post is what I meant by communicating your expectations early on.
 
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